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WDW-parades & shows-illuminations an evening at epcot

Post by Guy » Apr Wed 23, 2008 5:44 pm

Wow - it's late a night here and I am hearing this amazing track for only the second time on SR. It's requested so often and for us guys that are in different time zones we end up missing it - but hay ho.

Anyway to my question :?

Does anybody have a list of exactly what this track comprises? I know most of the track and their names from the preshow and the Illuminations music but because I don't get to hear the track I would love to know more.

Also, does anybody know who put it together?

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Post by js3901 » Apr Wed 23, 2008 6:29 pm

you can find quite a few loops (what's in them) over at Disney Music Loops

here are the loops for the EPCOT WS area, which includes the Illuminations pre and post show loops.

From what I can make out, the "evening at epcot" track combines the Pre shows from '99-'04 and '04-present (all tracks, or at least most), as well as the show itself. As far as who put it together - unknown. It sounds like a master track to me.
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Post by Guy » Apr Wed 23, 2008 6:51 pm

Thanks for the reply. I have checked out Disney Loops before and it doesn't seem particularly conclusive. For example, it only names two short tracks for the post show when our track has a good 20mins post show.

I am pretty sure it's a mix of induction recordings (for the speech) and master tracks. I think the creator probably has the same Illuminations CD as me.

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Post by js3901 » Apr Wed 23, 2008 6:53 pm

actually, it shows 2 things for the post show, but only 1 has a time listed, and the other is just listed as "a selection of tracks) which I believe encompases the other 15-16 minutes.
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Post by Guy » Apr Wed 23, 2008 6:55 pm

js3901 wrote:actually, it shows 2 things for the post show, but only 1 has a time listed, and the other is just listed as "a selection of tracks) which I believe encompases the other 15-16 minutes.
Sorry, miss read the loop site. It would be great to know what that selection was though. I assume that subsonic might know who uploaded it.

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Post by subsonic » Apr Thu 24, 2008 10:55 am

I should contact that person on Disney Music loops and offer them hosting or something. To think, it's on a tripod site! Ugh. I'm going to do that right now!
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Post by Guy » Apr Thu 24, 2008 11:46 am

subsonic wrote:I should contact that person on Disney Music loops and offer them hosting or something. To think, it's on a tripod site! Ugh. I'm going to do that right now!
Sorry to appear really stupid - but I am not sure what you mean? :cry:

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Post by YZFDonor » Apr Thu 24, 2008 8:00 pm

Sorry to appear really stupid - but I am not sure what you mean?
He means "Disney Loops" website is on a free web host and everytime you click a page, a new pop up ad shows up plus all the banners. Subsonic was going to offer to host the site on his server where the experience will be much more pleasureable for everyone. Subs the man!

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Post by Guy » Apr Fri 25, 2008 3:07 am

Oh :? When I visit the site, I don't see any banners or popups - anyway thank for your message :)

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Post by artbaum » Apr Mon 28, 2008 5:05 am

I agree that that track is amazing. I spent a while searching for the songs in the pre-show last year and found a list on Amazon.com pointing to the songs (and CDs containing the songs) in both the '99-'04 preshow and the '04 to present preshow.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltgu ... T5OD58P37/

However, it is missing one song ("Red Skies") from the current preshow, according to the lists at http://pages.prodigy.net/stevesoares/il ... reshow.htm and at the aforementioned Disney Music Loops site. It also does not include "Appalachian Morning" by John Williams, which plays at the end of the '99-'04 preshow and is of such a different character to the rest of the preshow music that it almost feels like part of the show.

The track on Subsonic is the '99-'04 version and contains all ten preshow songs of that era, including the aforementioned "Appalachian Morning." All of the preshow songs are prepublished. Once the show starts, the rest of the track is presumably original music, written for Illuminations: Reflections of Earth or for the Millenium Celebration (namely Don Dorsey's song "Promise," played immediately following the show, and the score for the Tapestry of Nations parade).

I'm not that familiar with Tapestry of Nations / Tapestry of Dreams, but I will say that the cue following "Promise" in the Evening at Epcot track matches the music about 5 or 5 1/2 minutes into the Subsonic track "tapestry of nations (with exit music)," and I believe they match all the way up until the latter track ends, which leads me to wonder whether that track from Tapestry of Nations isn't incomplete.

Just before the end of An Evening at Epcot, there's a clock ticking that's reminiscent of the opening of the Tapestry of Nations track. That, coupled with the fact that the Tapestry of Nations music offered by Disney on CD is closer to 25 minutes long (versus 14 on Subsonic Radio), suggests to me that the remaining 10 minutes in the Evening at Epcot track might be from the last ten minutes of Tapestry of Nations on the CD, which are in turn cut off of "tapestry of nations (with exit music)" on Subsonic Radio. I haven't heard the CD, though; does anyone have a Millenium Celebration CD to do the comparison?

Interestingly, the end of An Evening at Epcot is also similar to the end of the "tapestry of nations" (not with exit music) track on Subsonic.

As to who put together the track, I couldn't say, although I always thought it was a master as opposed to a fan recreation. It sure sounds professional; whoever made it did a great job. I've seen a version of it that claimed to be encoded by sds910, who apparently also contributed the tracklist to for the preshow to the Prodigy website above.

As an aside, I liked the Väsen song (heard during the 5 minute announcement) so much that I bought their CD from Amazon -- not the Northside Sampler mentioned in Tropi's list, but the band's CD "Whirled." All of the songs on it are quite good! They also used to have 3 free song downloads on Amazon, but I can't seem to find them any more. :?

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Post by Guy » Apr Mon 28, 2008 3:05 pm

Thanks for all the information - I had come to the same conclusion that the majority of the opening of the track was the 99-04 pre-show. As for the tapestry of dreams, you may be right, but I don't remember hearing any of that music when I was last there (2007).

In terms of a fan producing such as track, it would be very easy with free software such as Audacity (so long as the person had the original source material - which by the look of the other sites can be easily obtained (mousebites & amazon etc). How they got hold of the announcements is another mater.

I was woundering b]artbaum[/b], where you saw another version of the track attributed to 'sds910?

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Post by Cheshire Cat » Apr Mon 28, 2008 3:40 pm

I do know that there's two versions of the evening at epcot floating around the internet... one version is with the 15, 10, 5 minute announcemets and another with only music. My guess is as good as anyone's whether the music is a master or it was strung together.

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