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Re: Liberty Square

Post by Wizzard419 » Nov Sun 18, 2012 7:54 pm

If it's like the mark twain, near the docks when it's stopped you can smell it (whatever fuel they are using).

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Re: Liberty Square

Post by Amy » Nov Sun 18, 2012 8:19 pm

The last time we were there, talking with one of the skippers, it sounds like the Liberty Belle's days could be numbered due to the cost of running it and the scarcity of replacement parts :(
I enjoy the trip around the Rivers of America :D

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Re: Liberty Square

Post by cy1229 » Nov Sun 18, 2012 8:36 pm

Amy wrote:The last time we were there, talking with one of the skippers, it sounds like the Liberty Belle's days could be numbered due to the cost of running it and the scarcity of replacement parts :(
I enjoy the trip around the Rivers of America :D
I had heard rumors similar to this but can't pinpoint where I read it. I almost certainly read it rather than hearing it from talking to someone directly. Just don't remember where.

And that's kind of my point, the fuel is expensive, smelly, and the attraction's popularity (or lack thereof) is going to make it too expensive to operate. I don't know what you mean about the boilers, dstrawn, maybe you could clarify for me. Are the paddles run via steam engine? I can't remember.

At any rate, I would hate to see the river boat gone altogether, but maybe repurposing it into something else would be viable. THEN the foot bridge could go in. :D Like, one of those rope-and-plank, swinging, kinds of bridges. :D
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Re: Liberty Square

Post by Wizzard419 » Nov Sun 18, 2012 8:38 pm

Fuel (gas, goal, or nuclear) is used to heat the water and the pressure created by the water is used to move the paddles.

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Re: Liberty Square

Post by dstrawn9889 » Nov Sun 18, 2012 9:27 pm

Wizzard419 wrote:Fuel (gas, goal, or nuclear) is used to heat the water and the pressure created by the water is used to move the paddles.
she is outfitted just like the Perimeter steam locomotives...
diesel to heat a boiler to use steam power to move the vessel

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Re: Liberty Square

Post by Wizzard419 » Nov Sun 18, 2012 9:42 pm

You're calling Mark Twain a she? Do you know something we don't? :D

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Re: Liberty Square

Post by dstrawn9889 » Nov Sun 18, 2012 9:55 pm

all sea-faring vessels (even those that float on fresh-water) are referred to with the gender-pronoun 'she', no matter the name on her stern

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The exact reason why boats are called she in English is lost to history. While explanations abound, most appear to be of the folk variety, assumed or invented after the fact as a way to make sense of the phenomenon. Boats are a truly interesting case in English, as they are among the only inanimate objects that take a gendered pronoun, whereas most others are called it. Countries are also called she, as are cars sometimes, but the latter example is almost certainly an extension from boats.
A theory as to why boats are called she points to the existence of grammatical gender in most Indo-European languages besides English. While Modern English has hardly any grammatical gender, limited for the most part to cases of natural gender, such as the nouns "woman" and "man" being called she and he respectively, there is evidence that English once has a more extensive system of grammatical gender, similar to that in languages such as German and French. In most Indo-European languages with grammatical gender, the word for "ship" is feminine. In Old English texts, there is more evidence of grammatical gender, such as a shield being called she.

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Re: Liberty Square

Post by Wizzard419 » Nov Sun 18, 2012 10:39 pm

I knew that, but it is funny to think that you were calling Mark Twain a woman.

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Re: Liberty Square

Post by Sleepy90 » Nov Mon 19, 2012 6:05 am

Wizzard419 wrote:I knew that, but it is funny to think that you were calling Mark Twain a woman.
It's not the Mark Twain at WDW the boat there is called Liberty Belle.

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Re: Liberty Square

Post by Wizzard419 » Nov Mon 19, 2012 9:37 pm

I know, but he labeled all boats a lady, and knowing Twain, he surely isn't a lady. :D

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Re: Liberty Square

Post by Sharonofwindham » Nov Tue 20, 2012 9:32 pm

I really would miss the Liberty Belle :cry:. I don't ride it each and every trip, but I love seeing it, and hearing it"s whistle. I am going to ride it every trip from now on 'cause I don't think I've shown it enough appreciation in the past :oops:.

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