Sum of All Thrills no evac plan or training!

mindflipper · Post by **mindflipper** » Nov Thu 19, 2009 6:48 pm

Wow, it is ages since I've seen that one that I cannot actually recall if they did or didn't...

imaginationcelebration · Post by **imaginationcelebration** » Nov Thu 19, 2009 8:54 pm

Jacca5660 wrote:
mindflipper wrote:
Len90 wrote:Not really a PC indoctrination center since they are changing over to Macs.
Ouch! Got me there with PC/Mac bit! Jacca5660 was referring to PC = Political Correctness. The whole "PC" movement is generally blamed on the universities (especially in the North or on the West Coast) where professors tend to force the idea upon the students.

BTW the "goose-step" is a military step not exclusive to the nazis. It's just their the first common stereotype that comes to mind, and it is generally seen to be done by military forces of dictatorships. It has come to symbolize a mindless, military uniformity, an even Disney used the imagery in the "Lion King" when Scar mobilized the hyenas under his dictatorship.

Now that's deep!! Since it's becoming the Christmas season, didn't the wooden soldiers in March of the Wooden Soldiers goose step? Dude, we might be the only ones that remember that movie!

I remember it, I also remember the Laurel and Hardy version which I believe came out earlier and was better in my opinion.

Jacca5660 · Post by **Jacca5660** » Nov Fri 20, 2009 3:41 am

imaginationcelebration wrote:
Jacca5660 wrote:
mindflipper wrote: Ouch! Got me there with PC/Mac bit! Jacca5660 was referring to PC = Political Correctness. The whole "PC" movement is generally blamed on the universities (especially in the North or on the West Coast) where professors tend to force the idea upon the students.

BTW the "goose-step" is a military step not exclusive to the nazis. It's just their the first common stereotype that comes to mind, and it is generally seen to be done by military forces of dictatorships. It has come to symbolize a mindless, military uniformity, an even Disney used the imagery in the "Lion King" when Scar mobilized the hyenas under his dictatorship.

Now that's deep!! Since it's becoming the Christmas season, didn't the wooden soldiers in March of the Wooden Soldiers goose step? Dude, we might be the only ones that remember that movie!
I remember it, I also remember the Laurel and Hardy version which I believe came out earlier and was better in my opinion.

The Laurel and Hardy version is the one I'm talking about. I didn't realize there was a remake.

Mousekedude · Post by **Mousekedude** » Nov Fri 20, 2009 8:48 am

I'm having a "senior moment." I can't remember it at all...

Mousekedude · Post by **Mousekedude** » Nov Fri 20, 2009 1:44 pm

Getting back to my point, though, here is but one of many examples to illustrate what I was trying to say:

Friday, November 20, 2009
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
Dumbo Univeristy
by Pat Buchanan

As George W. Bush famously asked, "Is our children learning?"

Apparently not in .... D.C. and New York.

In a ranking of 50 states and D.C. by how much each spent per pupil in public schools in 2005, New York ranked first; D.C. third. The state spent $14,100, and New York City just a tad less.

And the bountiful fruits of this massive transfer of taxpayers' wealth? In D.C., nearly half of all black and Latino students drop out. Of those who graduate, nearly half are reading and doing math at seventh-, eighth- and ninth-grade levels. D.C. academic achievement ranks 51st, last in the U.S.

Yet last week came a report from New York that makes D.C look like M.I.T. Some 200 students, in their first math class at City University of New York, were tested on their basic math skills.

Ninety percent could not do basic algebra. One-third could not convert a decimal into a fraction.

If this was a representative sampling, nine in 10 CUNY students not only do not belong in college, they do not qualify for their high school diplomas. As for that third who can't do decimals and fractions, they should not have been allowed into high school until they could do sixth-grade math.

As 70 percent of all CUNY students are graduates of city schools, a question arises: What are the taxpayers of New York getting for the highest tax rates in the nation?

If a private business annually turned out products that were of inferior quality than the year before, management would be thrown out by the board. Yet, the education racket has been shaking us down for four decades, and turning out graduates that know less and less.

Scholastic Aptitude Test scores peaked around 1964. Ever since, the national average has been in an almost unbroken descent.

So embarrassing did it get that, a few years ago, the SAT folks retooled the test to produce higher scores. Now there are more 1600s. But the national average continues its decline, and the gap between blacks and Hispanics, and Asians and whites, endures.

Is it not a time for truth?

Our wonderful Len is one of a dying breed of students: those who are smart, self-motivated, and appreciate the need for (and value of) hard work and dedication. Len and those like him will succeed and make us all proud. But unfortunately, too many students these days are products of a system that coddles mediocrity and emphasizes feelings over facts. The above article illustrates the results of that mindset.

My point? It is that THIS is how you get bean counters in management who don't seem to understand that you get what you pay for when it comes to designing effective safety features into rides, and THIS is also how you get so-called "engineers" who think their egos are more important than learning how to do real math and real engineering so they can design safety features that actually work!

Of course, I'm only speculating. None of this may have anything to do with what happened, but it is certainly something to think about.

mindflipper · Post by **mindflipper** » Nov Fri 20, 2009 1:53 pm

I don't know - but Len seems smart to me. I think he would be in the group that could do algebra, fractions, and decimals.

...but, Dude, I gotta tell ya - I'm one of those "bean counter in management", but not at Disney. Trust me, there's a level above us bean counters, and they make all the decisions. And there's a lot of people who get their 2 cents as well: people from Marketing (who seem to have more say than most of what should be and are the least qualified to express an opinion), People from Legal (lawyers - always have more say), and consultants (people who have no idea of what they're talking about - but they're always the ones listened to more than people doing the work). Its the corporate business world, and is far more nuttier than anything in Alice's Wonderland LOL!!!

Jacca5660 · Post by **Jacca5660** » Nov Fri 20, 2009 2:08 pm

Mind you're a corporate bean counter? I'll pray for you!

At Disney these are the same people who don't budget maintenance for a venue. They also so cut corners to save a penny when it's gonna cost them ten dollars later! From the Disney people I know...Everything will be maintained and repaired Automagically.

Mousekedude · Post by **Mousekedude** » Nov Fri 20, 2009 2:12 pm

Oh, I agree completely, Mindflipper!! I've seen it myself many times! I really meant to include all those in the decision-making-authority positions. Where I work, it's unbelievable to me how many really dumb decisions get made for the sake of saving money, and which end up backfiring.

99Soulz · Post by **99Soulz** » Nov Fri 20, 2009 2:44 pm

Believe me, I work in "big corporate" and ALL of the decisions are made by that higher level, and the bean counters are left to figure it out, usually shaking our heads in disgust.

alsirrap · Post by **alsirrap** » Jan Thu 07, 2010 3:58 am

I also heard this story, but later heard that the story was bogus. I certainly never heard any reliable news source report this.

Jacca5660 · Post by **Jacca5660** » Jan Fri 08, 2010 10:35 am

I got it from one of the first responders that did the evac. Is that reliable enough?