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Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Tue 19, 2013 8:53 pm
by packwingfn
So this is not major news or anything but some coworkers as part of my Adventureland team came up with an idea to our Engineering Services/Imagineering partners when Jungle Cruise was getting its overlay for Jingle Cruise. They asked if they could switch the Swissapolka track played every day in the dining room to a rare Christmas loop that used to play over in Disneyland's Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse before the switch to Tarzan's Treehouse. It went live on this past Sunday and it's a short 5 minute loop but a neat little addition to Adventureland for the holidays. So please check it out.

The track is available on the website if anyone is interested: It's under Disneyland's Christmas Medley for Treehouse :)

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Wed 20, 2013 7:50 am
by Amy
packwingfn wrote:So this is not major news or anything but some coworkers as part of my Adventureland team came up with an idea to our Engineering Services/Imagineering partners when Jungle Cruise was getting its overlay for Jingle Cruise. They asked if they could switch the Swissapolka track played every day in the dining room to a rare Christmas loop that used to play over in Disneyland's Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse before the switch to Tarzan's Treehouse. It went live on this past Sunday and it's a short 5 minute loop but a neat little addition to Adventureland for the holidays. So please check it out.

The track is available on the website if anyone is interested: It's under Disneyland's Christmas Medley for Treehouse :)
Nice! It is the little things that set Disney apart from the competition :D

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Wed 20, 2013 10:41 am
by theBIGyowski
very cool

one more reason to head to WDW in November-December

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Wed 20, 2013 11:57 am
by GeoffS
Great find! Always encourage the team to find connections to the past.

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Wed 20, 2013 2:36 pm
by horizons1
Aww, I just went there last night and skipped the treehouse. Oh well. By the way, Jingle Cruise was ok but seemed a very mild holiday overlay. Some holiday-oriented jokes (mostly Christmas) and some decorations and renamed boats. Nothing close to as elaborate as Haunted Mansion Holiday.

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Wed 20, 2013 9:25 pm
by Amy
horizons1 wrote:Aww, I just went there last night and skipped the treehouse. Oh well. By the way, Jingle Cruise was ok but seemed a very mild holiday overlay. Some holiday-oriented jokes (mostly Christmas) and some decorations and renamed boats. Nothing close to as elaborate as Haunted Mansion Holiday.
I wonder if they are experimenting with the Jingle Cruise this year to see how it is received by the guests. If it all goes well, maybe they are planning some more decorations next year?

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Wed 20, 2013 10:25 pm
by Wizzard419
Probably not, more likely it being an overlay that takes only a day to install and is cheap to replicate from the DLR version make it the only reason it made it to WDW.

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Thu 21, 2013 7:46 am
by Amy
Wizzard419 wrote:Probably not, more likely it being an overlay that takes only a day to install and is cheap to replicate from the DLR version make it the only reason it made it to WDW.
Isn't this the first year for the Jungle Cruise in DL as well?

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Thu 21, 2013 5:37 pm
by Wizzard419
Yep, and it also was a single day overlay. Considering that overlays do not traditionally get used at WDW, it is possible that it was designed for DLR and it was just easy enough to replicate. So yeah, you can have the overlay that involves changing out the music and throwing up a few decorations, but you probably won't be getting HMH or Small World Holiday since both require a sizeable install time.

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Thu 21, 2013 9:12 pm
by Amy
Wizzard419 wrote:Yep, and it also was a single day overlay. Considering that overlays do not traditionally get used at WDW, it is possible that it was designed for DLR and it was just easy enough to replicate. So yeah, you can have the overlay that involves changing out the music and throwing up a few decorations, but you probably won't be getting HMH or Small World Holiday since both require a sizeable install time.
Oh, I don't think WDW will ever get the HMH or the IASWH. I just was wondering if perhaps they will do more decorations throughout the Cruise itself if they get positive feedback on the minimal amount they did this year.

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Thu 21, 2013 10:59 pm
by Wizzard419
If whatever changes can be done with little to no intrusion of guest vacations, then possibly. Otherwise...

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Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Fri 22, 2013 1:46 am
by GeoffS
Like I said before, the one-day decorating used to be the norm. Happened either Sunday or Monday after Thanksgiving overnight (usually Monday due to park closing earlier, giving them more time). Displays weren't nearly as elaborate, but it was a near miraculous change.

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Fri 22, 2013 2:39 am
by Wizzard419
When was that? They have been pretty elaborate for over 15 (possibly over 20) years, plus there used to be trees set up in the moat in front of the castle. The tree alone takes weeks to set up and assemble backstage. Though, the whole reason companies are doing it earlier is that it costs a lot of money to do the setups and they want to get the most bang for their buck/get the most holiday purchases possible.

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Fri 22, 2013 12:25 pm
by cy1229
I remember watching something on either HGTV or the Travel channel a couple years ago about how WDW transforms itself for the Christmas holiday. I don't remember all the particulars, but I do remember them discussing having things put together in modular pieces backstage that are then rolled out overnight as GeoffS described, and the parks take on a miraculous transformation from autumn / Halloween to Christmas. Hubby worked security at WDW for a year (yeah... not a good year...) and he worked primarily the "graveyard" shift, and told me about the overnight transformation with bit of little-boy wide-eyed awe thrown in. Do they still do it that way, or is it a gradual transformation now?

Re: Swiss Family Robinson "Hidden" Christmast Overlay

Posted: Nov Fri 22, 2013 2:03 pm
by Wizzard419
Yes and no... (for DLR at least), overlays take weeks (not counting the overnight overlay for JC) to install but will spend a good deal of time backstage being set up, the ride still has to close for an extended period. That is the sticking point as to why WDW will not do it for their own parks, the closure of signature attractions for overlays could wreck a once in a lifetime vacation. Area décor starts off kind of slow, such as installing the poles needed for Radiator Springs, and then it becomes more rapid with touch ups coming after it appears to be done (such as throwing a bronze santa hat on the statue in Radiator Springs).

Another reason, at least at DLR, they have been starting early is that they keep moving up filming for the Christmas day special. This year it was the first week in November, so they were pulling down all the Halloween décor and putting up the Christmas stuff.