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Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 11:24 am
by PirateFan31
I hope they don't shut down the theme parks.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/20 ... al-Kingdom

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 11:27 am
by Jacca5660
Prayers to the family and all involved!

No they are not going to shut down any parks!

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 11:58 am
by mindflipper
No, not the Animal Kingdom, just the ride. The entire park does not get closed in this kind of situation, only the ride until local, state and federal investigators get a chance to investigate the incident.

The only Disney Theme Parks anywhere in the world currently closed are those in Japan due to the earthquake/tsunami. Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySeas will remain closed for 10 days while the damage to the parks are assessed.

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 12:05 pm
by PirateFan31
This is the second time someone has been killed on this ride. People are going to start asking some serious questions about how it was able to stand after just one person died. If people dig deep enough, it might be enough to shut down Disney

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 12:13 pm
by Mr.ToadWildRider
PirateFan31 wrote:This is the second time someone has been killed on this ride. People are going to start asking some serious questions about how it was able to stand after just one person died. If people dig deep enough, it might be enough to shut down Disney
I seriously doubt that. Just because accidents happen doesn't mean that there is something wrong with a ride. Given the high volume of people through the parks Disney is one of the safest, if not the safest, theme park/amusement park in the world.

If you read the article it was a cast member who died while the ride wasn't even operational. The ride is down for refurb. It's a pretty vague article, but it almost sounds like it was a construction or maintenance worker who was killed while performing refurb work. It sounds like it has zero to do with the operational safety of the ride.

If a mechanic were working on one of WDW's busses and the hydraulic lift failed and crushed them would that make the bus itself unsafe to ride?

I think you're jumping to extremely unfounded/unrelated conclusions. Again, there's not a whole lot in that article but what jumped out at me was: "The ride was not in operation at the time and is currently undergoing some refurbishment work. "

The CM was also 52 which I would venture to guess is not your average greeter/loader who are either college age or more elderly retirees.

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 12:15 pm
by mindflipper
Agreed. It looks like more safety precautions will be needed for cast members to follow in the future....

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 12:15 pm
by PirateFan31
Other deaths are due to pre-existing heart conditions, etc. or guest/employee error. This seems to be a flawed design.

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 12:24 pm
by mindflipper
PirateFan31 wrote:Other deaths are due to pre-existing heart conditions, etc. or guest/employee error. This seems to be a flawed design.
...or someone not following the correct safety procedures. No way to know exactly until all investigations are completed.

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 12:25 pm
by Mr.ToadWildRider
PirateFan31 wrote:Other deaths are due to pre-existing heart conditions, etc. or guest/employee error. This seems to be a flawed design.
What in this article gives you that impression? It says that a cast member suffered head trauma at a non-operational ride that is undergoing refurb? It sounds like an industrial accident, not an injury resulting from an issue with the ride considering it was not in operation at the time of the incident. There is also nothing in the article to rule out employee error, though you seem to be making that conclusion. Are you basing your conclusions on information other than what's reported in the article you posted?

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 12:26 pm
by Polynesian Princess
That's terrible. :( My prayers are with the family.
PirateFan31 wrote:This is the second time someone has been killed on this ride. People are going to start asking some serious questions about how it was able to stand after just one person died. If people dig deep enough, it might be enough to shut down Disney
The first death was because a worker went into a prohibited area while the ride was in operation and fell. It is still incredibly tragic, but had nothing to do with the operation of the ride - the area was already restricted because of the danger potential. One of the renovations that are currently being done were installing a sensor to automatically stop the ride if a cast member goes into that area to prevent the same tragedy from happening twice. Mission: Space has had more deaths that occurred to people riding the attraction and it is still in operation (though at a lesser intensity and with two ride options). Disney will not shut down due to this death and though Primeval Whirl will likely stay down for renovations longer due to investigations of the death, it will likely not effect the long term operation of this attraction.

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 12:29 pm
by Jacca5660
PirateFan31 wrote:This is the second time someone has been killed on this ride. People are going to start asking some serious questions about how it was able to stand after just one person died. If people dig deep enough, it might be enough to shut down Disney
Nobody is shutting down Disney!! Yes there have been accidents and deaths at Disney over the years, but "NO", nobody is shutting down Disney. It's not gonna happen, nobody is going to do an investigation into past mishaps. It comes down to things happen. Disney has very deep pockets!

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2011 1:28 pm
by mindflipper
Polynesian Princess wrote:The first death was because a worker went into a prohibited area while the ride was in operation and fell. It is still incredibly tragic, but had nothing to do with the operation of the ride - the area was already restricted because of the danger potential. One of the renovations that are currently being done were installing a sensor to automatically stop the ride if a cast member goes into that area to prevent the same tragedy from happening twice. Mission: Space has had more deaths that occurred to people riding the attraction and it is still in operation (though at a lesser intensity and with two ride options). Disney will not shut down due to this death and though Primeval Whirl will likely stay down for renovations longer due to investigations of the death, it will likely not effect the long term operation of this attraction.
Thanks for that summarization, Poly. It does sound like both deaths are industrial accidents in nature. And like you, I would like to express my condolences to that cast member's family for their loss.

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Tue 15, 2011 4:04 am
by wxwiz
How sad to hear. My condolences to those involved.

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Tue 15, 2011 8:48 pm
by Len90
First and most important are the thoughts and prayers to the family of the worker who was killed. Secondly, we should determine the cause to prevent any future incidents from happening instead of jumping to vague conclusions. I am happy that an investigation will be done in hopes that it will make a potentially safer environment on Primeval Whirl and for attractions like this in other theme parks as well.

Let's keep this realistic. Disney is not going to close due to this instance. The attraction will remain down for an extended period of time, but everything else will operate as normal.

Re: Another Death at Disney World

Posted: Mar Wed 16, 2011 6:41 pm
by leblanan
Len90 wrote:First and most important are the thoughts and prayers to the family of the worker who was killed. Secondly, we should determine the cause to prevent any future incidents from happening instead of jumping to vague conclusions. I am happy that an investigation will be done in hopes that it will make a potentially safer environment on Primeval Whirl and for attractions like this in other theme parks as well.

Let's keep this realistic. Disney is not going to close due to this instance. The attraction will remain down for an extended period of time, but everything else will operate as normal.
Agreed. Right now just keep the family of the victim in our thoughts, and I'm sure the report will lead some sort of safety engagements or procedures for the cast members. The thought that Disney World would close down due to this is just absurd.