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Ah, yes. Most things happened between College Programmers than regular CMs... Kinda why I loved being a Gangster or Bandit more than Tour Guide, your own little space away from all the drama... and Phase 10...agingerbugg wrote:Of course, I have heard stories of some of the things that go on behind scenes and my little escapades pale in comparison.
For a second I thought I was in an INTERCOT forum.agingerbugg wrote:I am totally in favor of them updating this ride. I mean is there anyone still alive who remembers Busby Berkeley movies? Gene Kelley is dead and there are a whole slew of new musicals to choose from. I say take out the outdated Footlight Parade and Singing in the Rain, put in the greatest modern musical EVER...High School Muscial; leave Mary Poppins. For gangster movies, keep as is, Disney studios (or its subsidiaries) have not done a gangster movie in awhile. Western, John Wayne is still the Duke. Alien really isn't a representation of horror sci-fi, so replace that with WALL-E (gotta make Lasseter happy). Replace Indy with National Treasure, it is a newer Disney movie than Indy (besides Lucas has too much in DHS now). For Horror, Miramax did do Hellraiser and Halloween movies, it works better than dead mummies. Keep Casablanca, it's a classic. Tarzan replace with George of the Jungle; Brendan Fraser is more believable than Johnny Weismueller anyways. As for the Wizard of Oz, I think Narnia is a much better choice. Keep the first little scene with Dorothy et al looking at the Emerald City, but get rid of the next scene. It never made sense to me why they moved backwards through that movie. Put in some Narnia scene with the White Witch terrorizing the Narnians and have the tour guide or Aslan or something, make it more modern.
It really is a shame how Disney keeps trying to push all these old out-dated movies on our children. I mean come on, there are so many new movies that are more marketable than Tarzan, Singing in the Rain or Alien. It is time to Plus this attraction.
This is what scares me. After seeing how Disney is just looking to market and brand stuff ala IASW DLR, I'm afraid that their idea of a classic movie will be what ever they feel the can sell the most plush toys with.Son of Dreamfinder wrote:They shouldnt put in new movies because knowing disney they will put in High School musical and ill never be able to ride it again. If they try to change it to be more disney like I would like to see it be more focused on the classic disney from swiss robinson to 20000 leagues under the sea. If they wanted to go to wonderful world of color they could have a section on the scarecrow of romney marsh which would be awesome.
If they did that, then the vehicles would bump into each other every 5 minutes. They have the "slow" parts to let the vehicle ahead of you get a safe distance away. True they could time everything around a change (the vehicles are manual not automatic for those who did not know), but where is the fun in that?Figment of Imagination wrote:Most of the ride is still great. I love most of the rooms. I do wish that they would take out a lot of the live action parts, they're not very interesting and it seem to slow down the ride.
I pretty much agree with this. There have been American movies that were great, but not Great American Movies. At least none that I can think of.BirdandRobot wrote:I say this because I can't think of one American/Hollywood feature made in the past twenty years that is "great" (and yes that includes LOTR, Forrest Gump, Titanic, Sixth Sense, Shawshank Redemption and every Spielberg movie made).
True, but I think it's less about the quality of individual films and more about their influence on cinema and pop culture.On second thought, some of the films already in the ride now aren't necessarily great either (notably Tarzan, the Ape Man).
I dunno, Public Enemy was historic for being shocking. And it's also really entertaining. Another suggestion would be the original Scarface....The Roaring Twenties instead of The Public Enemy...
Hmm. One could certainly make the argument that Unforgiven is a Great American Film....Unforgiven instead the current Eastwood segment...
Captain Schnemo wrote:I pretty much agree with this. There have been American movies that were great, but not Great American Movies. At least none that I can think of.BirdandRobot wrote:I say this because I can't think of one American/Hollywood feature made in the past twenty years that is "great" (and yes that includes LOTR, Forrest Gump, Titanic, Sixth Sense, Shawshank Redemption and every Spielberg movie made).
This is one attraction where "outdated" is good, given that it's supposed to be a largely historical look at classic cinema. Personally, I think Alien should make the cut, based on the film's quality and influence, but that did seem to be an overture to modernity at the time of the ride's creation, so if they replaced it with something more classic, I'd be OK with it. They could do the original Day the Earth Stood Still. Or 2001 or even Blade Runner if they wanted to be more modern. Relatively speaking.
True, but I think it's less about the quality of individual films and more about their influence on cinema and pop culture.On second thought, some of the films already in the ride now aren't necessarily great either (notably Tarzan, the Ape Man).
I dunno, Public Enemy was historic for being shocking. And it's also really entertaining. Another suggestion would be the original Scarface....The Roaring Twenties instead of The Public Enemy...
I think the gangster genre needs to be represented since it, along with the Western, are the purest American genres.
I'd also like to see more film noir. Any excuse to add The Maltese Falcon, really.
Hmm. One could certainly make the argument that Unforgiven is a Great American Film....Unforgiven instead the current Eastwood segment...
Personally, I would ditch the tour guides. They're cool in some instances, but the bogus cowboy/gangster bits were embarassingly bad, and usually played with all the enthusiasm of a Land boat guide with a hangover.
That would give them the opportunity to add some zing on top of the existing effects. A new soundtrack, maybe get some film historians to write the script about the influence of certain films and then sugar coat it with a 3D film host or something. I wouldn't want anything modern-looking, but using modern tech to blend in with the classic styles could be cool.
You could then reformat the Western and gangster sections...I'd love to see Clint's spaghetti Westerns represented, although I suppose those aren't actually American movies...so, um, never mind.
Anyway, the point is, the attraction should show the public more than the movies they already know. If the ride gets one more person to watch Casablanca or become curious as to how we got here from there, it would be a success.
Everything doesn't have to be a tie-in to an existing property you already know everything about. There's room for a little painless education here and there.
