Redoing the "descent" part of Spaceship Earth or n

wess_80 · Post by **wess_80** » Mar Wed 14, 2007 7:12 am

Now that Spaceship Earth has a new sponsor, should they work on the descent par of Spaceship Earth which doesn't look too futuristic... or should they leave it the way it is... or should they redo the whole ride.

Got to say that SE is my all time favorite ride and it would be a shame to change the whole ride. But changing the descent to show a more futuristic ending would be great... the same way that they should work on the last act from the carousel of progress if they plan on using this attraction for a few more years.

CDAbleson · Post by **CDAbleson** » Mar Wed 14, 2007 8:03 am

I would like to see something more done with that portion of SE as well...It needs to be MUCH more dramatic...

Post by **rdeacon** » Mar Wed 14, 2007 9:37 am

From everything I've read Seimens is ok with the actual ride and didn't want any major changes changes.

I would think they would want to "brand" the backwards second 1/2, since I still see AT&T in it. I know the logos are gone, but it still feels AT&Tish. I would think they would want to introduce some of their technologies to the ride.

But for now they are going to work after you exit the ride. I think its a smart move to tackle that area first. The ride exit was sooo depressing once AT&T pulled out.

Guess time will tell on the actual ride changes.

Rich

soupsoupgirl · Post by **soupsoupgirl** » Mar Wed 14, 2007 9:44 am

I think it has been stated before that there are structural issues with doing any major changes to the track, but there are some scenes (Sistine Chapel, old "future city" and the descent that need some attention. Here's hoping that Seimens opens the coffers and restores SSE to its former glory.

FlyingMouse · Post by **FlyingMouse** » Mar Wed 14, 2007 10:06 am

Here's a question: Why does Disney (a la 2007) need a corporate sponsor to maintain a ride/show/etc to tolerable levels? I totally understand when Disneyland first opened and Disney's (Walt's) pockets weren't very deep, he needed all the help he could get. I also understand it was Walt's intention to have his parks (especially EPCOT) to be a showcase of corporate and community leaders and innovators. Walt is long gone, and so is his dream (a least as far as Disney Execs are concerned). It's all about the mou$e.

I guess it's sort of a rhetorical question. If they can get GM to pay for their attraction, why should Disney spend any money of their own.

Post by **spaulo** » Mar Wed 14, 2007 10:25 am

FlyingMouse wrote:Here's a question: Why does Disney (a la 2007) need a corporate sponsor to maintain a ride/show/etc to tolerable levels? I totally understand when Disneyland first opened and Disney's (Walt's) pockets weren't very deep, he needed all the help he could get. I also understand it was Walt's intention to have his parks (especially EPCOT) to be a showcase of corporate and community leaders and innovators. Walt is long gone, and so is his dream (a least as far as Disney Execs are concerned). It's all about the mou$e.

I guess it's sort of a rhetorical question. If they can get GM to pay for their attraction, why should Disney spend any money of their own.

To be fair, you seem to be saying "When Walt did it, it was cool. But with Walt gone, the fact that Disney STILL does it is money-grubbing"... the biggest complaint Disney fans normally seem to have is that the Company does too few of the things Walt did.

That, and the sponsors do not foot the entire bill for the attractions anyway...

csquare77 · Post by **csquare77** » Mar Wed 14, 2007 10:36 am

Who is the new sponsor? Its been AT&T since I can remember.

Post by **spaulo** » Mar Wed 14, 2007 11:11 am

Siemens

Post by **Dr. Ravenscroft** » Mar Wed 14, 2007 11:30 am

I'm just glad that the exit will be developed. I always hated the fact that the exit was so empty and made you think that "the ride is over now get out". That's just what I thought it felt like to me.

Disneys America · Post by **Disneys America** » Mar Wed 14, 2007 2:43 pm

Whatever Siemens does, it's nice to see the attraction getting a little TLC.

Captain Schnemo · Post by **Captain Schnemo** » Mar Thu 15, 2007 6:44 am

FlyingMouse wrote:I guess it's sort of a rhetorical question. If they can get GM to pay for their attraction, why should Disney spend any money of their own.

I think that's it exactly.

spaulo, the problem isn't that there are corporate sponsors, it's that when the sponsors pull out, Disney lets attractions decay to the point that they're embarrassing. The responsibility is still to the guests, regardless of what sort of business decisions have been made.

slotofkit · Post by **slotofkit** » Mar Thu 15, 2007 12:38 pm

I've been reading some interesting things in books about corporate sponsors and early Disneyland history. I guess Walt let stores and restaurants be leased out so it was nearly entirely run by companies. It was interesting, and sounded different than what it is now. And there was still the corporate sponsored attractions, like GE's Carousel and Monsanto's House of the Future.

As for the main topic of the postings, I have heard rumors that there will be some differences to update SE.

bribren · Post by **bribren** » Mar Thu 15, 2007 2:00 pm

Id like to see some sort of "global neighboorhood" at the exit. I always hate the rush out of an attraction. I used to like communicore too..

AKLRULZ · Post by **AKLRULZ** » Mar Thu 15, 2007 3:24 pm

Disneys America wrote:Whatever Siemens does, it's nice to see the attraction getting a little TLC.

Amen! I hope they leave it though - it brings back great memories as a kid.

Post by **horizons1** » Mar Thu 15, 2007 6:37 pm

I think Siemens should go over the tops of our heads and spotlight some of their industrial products. Like maybe dedicate the exit area to "Myths and Realities of Process Control".

One half of the room could be dedicated to the SIMATIC PCS 7 Process Control System and the other side devoted to fans of the TELEPERM M Process Control System. You could have people pick a side and then they face each other over a big space in the middle where robots controlled by Siemens controllers duke it out to the delight of all.