Some rumors...

wdwannabe · Post by **wdwannabe** » Oct Fri 17, 2008 4:31 pm

sherabby wrote:
wdwannabe wrote:Speaking of rehab rumors....

Space Mt is only going to get a six month rehab and not the full one DL Space Mt received a year or so ago.

Honey I Shrunk the Audience is going to close to become a new 3-D movie. Not sure what yet.
Is there any information available yet on the space mountain update? Will it be closing for this summer?

I don't remember, next year? Sorry.

hunter88 · Post by **hunter88** » Oct Wed 29, 2008 9:20 pm

ok as far as rumors go i got a few when i was down in Disney World over Easter i heard that they might be building a new theme park and it could be a villian them or a roller coaster theme park. Now that is what I heard

agingerbugg · Post by **agingerbugg** » Oct Wed 29, 2008 9:45 pm

hunter88 wrote:ok as far as rumors go i got a few when i was down in Disney World over Easter i heard that they might be building a new theme park and it could be a villian them or a roller coaster theme park. Now that is what I heard

Not to dash any dreams, but this rumor has been around for a long time. I seriously don't think that in this economy Disney will be building any new parks.

Soarin08 · Post by **Soarin08** » Nov Mon 17, 2008 10:01 pm

spodie wrote: Also a new Soarin' film might debut within the next year or during the anniversary in Epcot and in Disney's California Adventure called Soarin' around the World.

What do you guys think?

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!! DO NOT change the Soarin' film, Disney people!!! It is FINE how it is!!!! I would feel violated if they changed that ride in any way whatsoever.....

spodie · Post by **spodie** » Nov Mon 17, 2008 10:42 pm

Soarin08 wrote: NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!! DO NOT change the Soarin' film, Disney people!!! It is FINE how it is!!!! I would feel violated if they changed that ride in any way whatsoever.....

I'm guessing you're a hard-core Soarin' fan

. This may be blasphemy to you, but you wouldn't like to see a Soarin' around the world??

Captain Schnemo · Post by **Captain Schnemo** » Nov Mon 17, 2008 11:33 pm

Soarin08 wrote:I would feel violated if they changed that ride in any way whatsoever...

Imagine how you'd feel if they'd ruined almost the entirety of the parks of your youth. They didn't even buy me a drink, much less the added expense of roofies.

As for the Soarin' rumors, it would be criminally easy to add a new movie, but there has been talk of doing that with Star Tours ever since it opened.

If they were to finally get off their butt and do something (which hardly makes any sense, given that it's currently incredibly popular and therefore doesn't need any love or money thrown at it), they could certainly offer both Soarin' Classic and New Soarin' with More High Fructose Corn Syrup.

Soarin' around the World sounds OK, but it doesn't make any more sense in The Land than the current version does.

If they choose to upgrade Speedway, they really do have three options. They could toon it up, make it actually futuristic, or make it fantastic.

The Toon idea is intriguing, since they could potentially incorporate Benny the Cab and make the land a real ToonTown instead of Mickey's Half-Hearted Birthday and Cow Show. I don't even have any objections to outside properties in ToonTown, since without the toons, it's got no reason to exist. (Not that anyone cares what I think.)

In terms of making them futuristic, electric cars were invented in the early 19th Century, and all the other fuel tech mentioned is currently in existence. There are hydrogen cell buses tooling around, for poop's sake, and many of us have hybrids in our driveways. They should do hovercraft or something along those lines or don't try to even sell it as futuristic.

Reformatting it with Toad cars is kind of tempting, but really that's a lot of prime real estate that could be used for some premium dark rides. (Put a roof on it make it a giant Wild Ride where you have some control over the vehicle and I'm on board.)

It's worth taking a step back and thinking if the concept is really all that great in the first place. Controlling the car is certainly fun, especially for kids, but I can think of a dozen extinct attractions I'd sacrifice the Speedway to see again. I do worry about whatever they would put in its place, so I don't really mind some cheap reformat as a place holder until some imaginary point in the future at which a decent person takes over the theme park division. It does add movement and excitement to the environment.

I do agree that virtually anything is better than CO2-spewing go-karts.

Soarin08 · Post by **Soarin08** » Nov Tue 18, 2008 10:51 am

spodie wrote:
Soarin08 wrote: NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!! DO NOT change the Soarin' film, Disney people!!! It is FINE how it is!!!! I would feel violated if they changed that ride in any way whatsoever.....
I'm guessing you're a hard-core Soarin' fan . This may be blasphemy to you, but you wouldn't like to see a Soarin' around the world??

Ummm.... absolutely NOT on a Soarin' Around the World film. It just wouldn't fit, to me. That ride is a big reason I'm such a huge WDW addict and I don't want it changed. I would understand how other people feel about the changes to attractions I never got to experience, such as Wonders of Life.

Captain Schnemo · Post by **Captain Schnemo** » Nov Tue 18, 2008 2:32 pm

Soarin08 wrote:It just wouldn't fit, to me.

How does flying over California have anything to do with The Land?

spodie · Post by **spodie** » Nov Tue 18, 2008 5:46 pm

Captain Schnemo wrote:How does flying over California have anything to do with The Land?

Because California is a big chunk of "land."

theBIGyowski · Post by **theBIGyowski** » Nov Tue 18, 2008 5:58 pm

Captain Schnemo wrote:How does flying over California have anything to do with The Land?

It has more to do with The Land than singing food does. I mean...I loved Food Rocks and what was before it...but this seems to be something that compliments the Earth theme of The Land. Plus it was meant to be one of the attractions being showcased from Disneyland for the 50 Years of Magic if I am not mistaken.

yodiwan1 · Post by **yodiwan1** » Nov Tue 18, 2008 6:16 pm

Both Food Rocks, and Soarin' both fit, in the Land and here's why. If i am not mistaken the boat ride shows you how the food is grown. The show told us how that food was good for us. In Soarin', you get to look at all types of landscapes and living conditions, just like in the boat ride. Granted, I honestly do feel like they can still change it to Soarin' around the world, which would fit in better at Epcot since there is the world showcase. Just look at POTC, same title and idea at both parks, but different rides. Soarin' California was originally made for DCA, to celebrate California. There isn't exactly a ride in Cali celebrating Florida is there?

DisBeamer · Post by **DisBeamer** » Nov Tue 18, 2008 8:51 pm

Captain Schnemo wrote:Soarin' around the World sounds OK, but it doesn't make any more sense in The Land than the current version does.

Or it didn't, until they 'rehabbed' The Land to be travel-agency/airport themed. Now the only thing that doesn't make sense is the name of the pavilion. Perhaps they'll build a big hat in front of The Land sign soon, to solve that problem.

I agree with yodi, at least about Food Rocks and Kitchen Kabaret. The original theming of the place was best summed up by one of the ride names; Living with the Land. The healthy eating/sustainable crops business was a key part of all of that. That's why that Sunshine Seasons Food Fair was so awesome. I think Soarin' would fit in a lot better with an 'all around the world' theme, for that pavilion in particular. Plus it would de-homogenize the parks a little, which I'm all for.

Admiral01 · Post by **Admiral01** » Nov Tue 18, 2008 9:03 pm

Soarin' Around The World would also fit really well with the fact that World Showcase is 100 yards from The Land. EPCOT has always had a dual purpose: showcase the future, and showcase the world. I love the current Soarin' film, and since they have 2 theaters they could have a Soarin' Classic and Soarin' Around the World. I like that thought.

spodie · Post by **spodie** » Nov Tue 18, 2008 10:13 pm

Admiral01 wrote:and since they have 2 theaters they could have a Soarin' Classic and Soarin' Around the World. I like that thought.

Ooohhh - good idea! Although I'm sure they would get a lot of complaints about, "I really wanted to see the other film, blah, blah, blah..." 2 que lines would solve that problem though...

Captain Schnemo · Post by **Captain Schnemo** » Nov Tue 18, 2008 11:32 pm

yodiwan1 wrote:In Soarin', you get to look at all types of landscapes and living conditions, just like in the boat ride.

That's really a stretch. Pretty much all attractions have you looking at some land or other. That doesn't make any more sense than throwing Nemo into Seabase Alpha, unless you understand the pavilion as only "Look! Fish!".

The Kabaret and Food Rocks didn't anything to do with the concept either, by the way. Kabaret was a Kraft ad and Food Rocks was just an update of the thoughtless attraction that was there before. Either attraction would have made more sense in Wonders of Life.

Soarin' around the World would have a tie-in to the World Showcase, sure, but what does that have to do with Future World? What did any of the above attractions have to do with it?

These themes should be deeper than simply tying any noun together with some tangential relationship to the most general interpretation of the title of the pavilion.

As for the airport thing, what a great idea! There's nothing people love more than waiting in line in an airport...particularly those who are on vacation and have most likely just spent some quality time enjoying our friendly homeland security officers.

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