Monsters Inc. Coaster

JWG · Post by **JWG** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 8:48 am

I think TSM was the start of a "building" plan for DHS. The whole Pixar Place was hopefully the plan to make DHS more appealing and a full-day park.

Captain Schnemo · Post by **Captain Schnemo** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 8:52 am

WVParkfan wrote:There are so many wonderful movies they've made that aren't represented in the parks.

What-what-what??

agingerbugg · Post by **agingerbugg** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 8:52 am

WVParkfan wrote:So, do you think this Monsters Inc ride is the start of a building plan at DHS? Or, do you think this is a "one and done" project?

I'd love to see more Pixar themed attractions in the "Pixar Place" area. There are so many wonderful movies they've made that aren't represented in the parks.

I think the reason Pixar is so underrepresented in the parks is because until Dreamworks released Shrek, Pixar was Disney's red-headed stepchild. Then there was the whole Pixar severing itself from Disney and reconciling. Disney didn't want to invest a great deal of money on something, unless they knew it would pay out in the end. Now that CG animation has proven a success and the Disney/Pixar partnership is solid, Disney will exploit it. If toystory mania works out and this new coaster comes true, I am sure we will see more Pixar at DHS.

Captain Schnemo · Post by **Captain Schnemo** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 8:54 am

agingerbugg wrote:I think the reason Pixar is so underrepresented in the parks...

Oh, I get it...you guys are being ironic.

WVParkfan · Post by **WVParkfan** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 9:28 am

Nope Captain. Wasn't kidding. I don't agree with your opinions about what should/ shouldn't be included in the parks. I'd like to see something in the studios park themed to Ratatouille, Cars, the Incredibles, Monsters Inc., and Bug's Life. Pixar Place is the perfect location for this.

It doesn't bother me that you don't agree. I personally think the biggest waste of space in all of WDW is the Jungle Cruise and the Swiss Family Treehouse. You'll argue that they are "classics." I'll argue that they are tired, old rides that lost their usefulness when the Animal Kingdom Park was created, and are taking up valuable space that could be utilized so much better.

The great thing about Disney World is that there is something for everyone.

JWG · Post by **JWG** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 9:57 am

WVParkfan wrote:I personally think the biggest waste of space in all of WDW is the Jungle Cruise

and the Swiss Family Treehouse.

Jungle Cruise is one of the few places where cast members are allowed to have personality, which is really the only reason I like it. With AK and KS and Dinosaur type attractions I do somewhat agree. Though, I think it is important to have a mix of historic/famed attractions and new.

I also agree Pixar is a great idea - though currently seemingly sporadically "thrown" all over WDW without rhyme or reason. If they can contain it to appropriate venues and Pixar Place I'm a happy person. Not just that every new attraction gets a Pixar overlay.

Cheshire Cat · Post by **Cheshire Cat** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 10:00 am

There are so many wonderful movies they've made that aren't represented in the parks.

The problem is, they've created an unfortunate paradox now. They've already dropped Pixar attractions all over creation and only now they build an area designated for Pixar. I won't mind Pixar attractions so much if they're in their appropriate area.

I just want things to make sense. I want order!

Either all the other Pixar attractions should be moved to Pixar Studios or they should be destroyed.

edit: me and JWG posted about the same time without knowing what each other was typing and I just noticed we both used the words "Pixar" and "all over" in almost the same exact sentences.

Post by **js3901** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 10:21 am

I'd like to see something in the studios park themed to Ratatouille, Cars, the Incredibles, Monsters Inc., and Bug's Life.

Bug's life is already in the parks. It's Tough To Be A Bug at AK. Also, out in DCA, there is a Bug's Life area with themed rides, and there (will be) a Cars area too (I believe). I'll agree that The Incredibles are under-represented, especially for the length of time it's been out. same with Monsters.

jcodirewolf · Post by **jcodirewolf** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 1:55 pm

agingerbugg wrote: I think the reason Pixar is so underrepresented in the parks is because until Dreamworks released Shrek, Pixar was Disney's red-headed stepchild. Then there was the whole Pixar severing itself from Disney and reconciling. Disney didn't want to invest a great deal of money on something, unless they knew it would pay out in the end. Now that CG animation has proven a success and the Disney/Pixar partnership is solid, Disney will exploit it. If toystory mania works out and this new coaster comes true, I am sure we will see more Pixar at DHS.

Sounds like you are confused. Disney owned the characters that Pixar made for the first 5 movies (that agreement ended with Cars, I believe.) Pixar then wanted more control over the characters they created for Disney,

Disney/Eisner: "that isn't how the Mouse does things"
Pixar: "fine be that way, we are taking our ball and going home"
Disney stock-holders: "Mr Eisner, I think it's time for you to leave, you upset our friend Pixar"

Eisner gets some money, and exits stage right
Iger comes up from stage front walks up to Pixar
"what do we need to do to make things up to you?"

Pixar: "We don't NEED you"
Iger: "What if we just buy you"
Steve: "works for me"

Steve becomes the largest Single stockholder in Disney.

Everyone is happy, The End

It started out as a partnership, Pixar made films on Disney dime, and they owned everything (read outsourcing.) Now Pixar is part of Disney lock, stock and barrel. But Disney has always owned Cars, Nemo, Toy Story, and Incredibles. Pixar's own projects are moving slow now, because they have been asked to help with so many other Disney aspects (like existing Disney Movies in the pipeline, and attractions like TSMM both of which they had ZERO influence into before.)

johno

jcodirewolf · Post by **jcodirewolf** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 2:01 pm

js3901 wrote: Bug's life is already in the parks. It's Tough To Be A Bug at AK. Also, out in DCA, there is a Bug's Life area with themed rides, and there (will be) a Cars area too (I believe). I'll agree that The Incredibles are under-represented, especially for the length of time it's been out. same with Monsters.

There is a cars attraction (as lame as it is) at DLRP. Monsters Inc has the Laugh Floor. The Incredibles right now only make character appearances. There has been talk of an Incredibles coaster (but I don't know it's gone anywhere.)

johno

Captain Schnemo · Post by **Captain Schnemo** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 7:30 pm

WVParkfan wrote:I don't agree with your opinions about what should/ shouldn't be included in the parks.

You also don't understand them.

Nonetheless, this isn't a philosophical argument. Your original statement was that there are "so many" Pixar movies that are not represented in the parks. Maybe you actually meant the only the Studios. But "so many" implies "more than one".

I'd like to see something in the studios park themed to Ratatouille, Cars, the Incredibles, Monsters Inc.,

and Bug's Life. Pixar Place is the perfect location for this.

I agree.

It doesn't bother me that you don't agree.

Oops!

The idea that Pixar in underrepresented across all the parks is ludicrous. They even have two attractions based on the same series with the same ride premise! If you look at the number of Pixar films vs. the number of Disney films, they clearly have a disproportionate effect on the parks.

Although admittedly, if you base their influence based only on the quality of recent films, it does make sense. Why everything has to be tied to a movie is another issue entirely.

Post by **js3901** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 8:39 pm

jcodirewolf wrote:
js3901 wrote: Bug's life is already in the parks. It's Tough To Be A Bug at AK. Also, out in DCA, there is a Bug's Life area with themed rides, and there (will be) a Cars area too (I believe). I'll agree that The Incredibles are under-represented, especially for the length of time it's been out. same with Monsters.
There is a cars attraction (as lame as it is) at DLRP. Monsters Inc has the Laugh Floor. The Incredibles right now only make character appearances. There has been talk of an Incredibles coaster (but I don't know it's gone anywhere.)

johno

oh yeah, I forgot that abomination in Tomorrowland. take away our beloved Time Keeper for that load of drivel.

yodiwan1 · Post by **yodiwan1** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 9:08 pm

Why can't peop accept change? I love classic Disney and New Disney. I don't look at Pixar projects as non-Disney. It's just an evolution. Cartoons are done differently now. I am not saying get rid of classic attractions,but be open minded with new ones. Things can never, and won't ever be the same. If all of WDW attractions were classic darks rides things would get boring. Times change. Rides change. Movies change. When was the last Disney chartoon movie not to come out straight to DVD? The only one's in theatres now are Disney/Pixar. (Animated movies that is). Let's face it animation is just done differently now. What was the last "old-school" cartoon movie, Atlantis?? Look how that turned out.

Cheshire Cat · Post by **Cheshire Cat** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 9:25 pm

Why can't peop accept change? I love classic Disney and New Disney. I don't look at Pixar projects as non-Disney. It's just an evolution.

It's not about whether it's Disney or not... it's about whether it matches the theming. Cartoons don't match the theming of Tomorrowland, Adventureland or Future World whether they be CGI or 2-D.

I have no problem with a Monsters Inc. attraction if it matches the theming of the area it's placed in. Pixar Studios is the perfect place for this attraction

DIAC1987 · Post by **DIAC1987** » Jul Wed 30, 2008 9:27 pm

All Pixar attractions in the other parks should be transferred over to Hollywood Studios in Pixar place, and then we'll have more room for other attraction. Perhaps the only exception to this rule is Nemo and Friends, because re-creating an entire aquarium would be quite silly.