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packwingfn · Post by **packwingfn** » Mar Thu 15, 2007 10:23 pm

What exactly does Siemens sell and do?

Post by **rdeacon** » Mar Fri 16, 2007 9:22 am

packwingfn wrote:What exactly does Siemens sell and do?

You post is exactly why Siemens is now sponsoring Spaceship Earth. They felt they lacked an identity with the American public.

Siemens.com wrote:For 160 years, the Siemens name has been synonymous with cutting-edge technologies and continuous growth in profitability. With our wide array of products, systems and services, we are world leaders in automation and control, information and communications, lighting, medical, power, transportation and water technologies. Sustainable success is our number one priority. Our activities focus on meeting the needs of our customers and creating value for our shareholders and employees. Our innovations – generated in our own laboratories and in cooperation with customers, business partners and universities – are our greatest strength. Siemens' global network of innovation is developing new products and services for a world that – while limited in resources – is boundless in possibilities.

The United States is one of Siemens' largest markets in the world, with twelve of Siemens' worldwide businesses headquartered here and annual sales of $21.4 billion. The Siemens companies in the U.S. employ approximately 70,000 people in all 50 states and Puerto Rico. Corporate headquarters for Siemens' U.S. businesses are located in New York City. Worldwide, Siemens and its subsidiaries employ 480,000 people in 190 countries and reported worldwide sales of $107.4 billion in fiscal 2006.

At Siemens, we view innovation as the key to entrepreneurial success. That's why rigorous innovation management is a top priority for us. In 2006, we invested approximately $6.15 billion in research and development. We generate more than 30 inventions every business day and – in close cooperation with our customers – transform them into new products, systems and solutions.

Siemens' portfolio comprises the following business areas:

* Automation & Control
* Building Technologies
* Energy & Power
* Financial Services
* Hearing Solutions
* Home Appliances
* Industrial Solutions
* Information and Communication
* Lighting
* Medical Solutions
* Transportation
* Water Technologies

Rich

wess_80 · Post by **wess_80** » Mar Fri 23, 2007 8:16 am

It has been confirmed that the exit of the ride is going to be replaced to show Siemens' products. The "global neighborhood" will be changed to something different, something Siemens.

But should the ride get a face lift. I think we all agree that it should remain Spaceship Earth and not be changed to a roller coaster type ride. But some of the scenes (most of which can be found in the descent part of the ride) display non-futuristic event because we are already using most of these technologies. On one hand, you could say that these scenes are displaying today's technologies. But on the other, it's not showing what the future will look like... like it used to when the ride was created and updated.

csquare77 · Post by **csquare77** » Mar Fri 23, 2007 10:56 am

wess_80 wrote:It has been confirmed that the exit of the ride is going to be replaced to show Siemens' products. The "global neighborhood" will be changed to something different, something Siemens.

But should the ride get a face lift. I think we all agree that it should remain Spaceship Earth and not be changed to a roller coaster type ride. But some of the scenes (most of which can be found in the descent part of the ride) display non-futuristic event because we are already using most of these technologies. On one hand, you could say that these scenes are displaying today's technologies. But on the other, it's not showing what the future will look like... like it used to when the ride was created and updated.

Well, yah its not like the technology has changed for the romans... But an updated ending will be nice, though I like how the current one is done. And I cant even imagine Spaceship Earth bing like a roller coaster type ride... Though with World of Motion, could any of us ever imagine what it was going to be like now, 10 years ago.

FlyingMouse · Post by **FlyingMouse** » Mar Fri 23, 2007 1:30 pm

Anybody know how the interior size of Spaceship Earth (if it were taken to rollercoasterville) compares to, say Rockin Rollercoaster. Is there even enough room to make a decent rollercoaster attraction inside the SE showbuilding?

csquare77 · Post by **csquare77** » Mar Fri 23, 2007 1:58 pm

As Rich said no major changes, just an update to the ending. I could never see Spaceship Earth as anything but what it has been since what 1982.

Post by **js3901** » Mar Fri 23, 2007 5:44 pm

I don't think that SE, as big as it is, would fit any form of traditional rollercoaster. Plus, wasn't the current track built to support the structure of the sphere? I don;t think they could remove/replace the track to support a rollercoaster without tearing down the sphere and rebuilding it.

One more thing, I don't think a roller coaster would fit the theme of SE in ANY way. SE, even in the 80s, was meant to show how communication has evolved, and the possibilities for the future, hence it's presence in futureworld. one of the last pavillions to keep the theme of futureworld...

TheGreatGonzo · Post by **TheGreatGonzo** » Mar Sat 24, 2007 8:18 am

I would be suprised if the structure of the sphere could withstand the lateral stress of a high speed ride anyway. Remember, it only has the 4 support legs.

csquare77 · Post by **csquare77** » Mar Sat 24, 2007 7:50 pm

Well the circular shape will give it strength, but I think your right Gonzo, I don't think the side walls would be strong enough to "hold" any tracks, if they used the walls for support. Anyways I don't think they will be making it into a roller coaster anytime soon.

yoyoflamingo · Post by **yoyoflamingo** » Mar Sun 25, 2007 5:35 pm

Last I heard, rumors were indicating that SSE was going down for a rehab either shortly after, or towards the end, of Haunted Mansion's rehab, with a change to the end. We all know the Global Neighborhood will be updated. But, the burning questions is, will Siemens want the wand to stay?

Again, this is just what I have read at various places, but it has been said by a few fairly reliable people around...I guess only time will really tell.

Cheshire Cat · Post by **Cheshire Cat** » Mar Sun 25, 2007 6:15 pm

If siemen's is looking for publicity by sponsoring sse there's no better way for them to win people over than by being able to claim that they were the ones who convinced Disney to trash the wand.

Esmeralda · Post by **Esmeralda** » Mar Sun 25, 2007 7:22 pm

Cheshire Cat wrote:If siemen's is looking for publicity by sponsoring sse there's no better way for them to win people over than by being able to claim that they were the ones who convinced Disney to trash the wand.

Agreed! That sure would make me feel kindly towards them. I'm still hoping to see that gone for the big 25 years.

yoyoflamingo · Post by **yoyoflamingo** » Mar Sun 25, 2007 8:40 pm

Cheshire Cat wrote:If siemen's is looking for publicity by sponsoring sse there's no better way for them to win people over than by being able to claim that they were the ones who convinced Disney to trash the wand.

They would get a lot of Disney fans' support, for sure. I am surprised though, that if it is coming down, we haven't really seen or heard anything definite yet. Especially with EPCOT's 25th getting closer...

GhostHost · Post by **GhostHost** » Mar Mon 26, 2007 7:03 am

I would be interested to know what type of switchgear is currently being used inside SE. I don't recall right now what it is but it would be funny if Siemens is sponsoring the ride and the whole deal is run by SquareD or Cutler Hammer switchgear!

csquare77 · Post by **csquare77** » Mar Mon 26, 2007 10:33 am

Is it even up to Siemen's to decide if the wand stays or goes?