The cities of Lake Buena Vista and Bay Lake

dwellsbct · Post by **dwellsbct** » Mar Tue 24, 2009 5:59 am

How do these cities exist as cities even though they do not have any municipal governments of their own?I know the governing body is RCID. Secondly why does the Walt Disney Company and/or RCID keep them as cities ? Why not just disolved their charters?

emnbensdad · Post by **emnbensdad** » Mar Tue 24, 2009 9:55 am

I checked out wikipedia to see what it said. Here are some interesting facts about the population of LBV.

As of the census[1] of 2000, there were 16 people, 9 households, and 5 families residing in the city. The population density was 1.3/kmÂ² (3.3/miÂ²). There were 11 housing units at an average density of 0.9/kmÂ² (2.3/miÂ²). Everyone in the city is white.

There were 9 households out of which one had children under the age of 18 living with them, four are married couples living together, none have a female householder with no husband present. Four are households are made up of individuals, one of whom is 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 1.78 and the average family size was 2.40.

In the city the population was spread out with two under the age of 18, nobody between 18 and 24, three from 25 to 44, six from 45 to 64, and five who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 53 years. The male-to-female ratio is 1:1.

The median income for a household in the city was $39,375, and the median income for a family was $62,500. Males had a median income of $60,000 versus $38,750 for females. The per capita income for the city was $25,769. No one in the city is below the poverty line.

Post by **horizons1** » Mar Tue 24, 2009 12:54 pm

Wouldn't these just be considered areas of RCID? They might be postal stops with their own zip codes but technically nobody needs to live there. There are all kinds of these across the country - my state of Arizona is littered with tiny towns with their own zip codes and post offices but no local government.

I believe they would be considered "county islands" under the jurisdiction of the surrounding county for municipal services such as Sheriff, Fire, etc. For power and infrastructure, obviously the RCID is in charge.

Post by **Len90** » Mar Tue 24, 2009 11:08 pm

horizons1 wrote:Wouldn't these just be considered areas of RCID? They might be postal stops with their own zip codes but technically nobody needs to live there. There are all kinds of these across the country - my state of Arizona is littered with tiny towns with their own zip codes and post offices but no local government.

I believe they would be considered "county islands" under the jurisdiction of the surrounding county for municipal services such as Sheriff, Fire, etc. For power and infrastructure, obviously the RCID is in charge.

That is what I am starting to believe about this. The laws are enforced by the county sheriff and the fire protection is provided by Reddy Creek. That reasoning makes a lot of sense to me!

Jacca5660 · Post by **Jacca5660** » Mar Wed 25, 2009 5:01 pm

Their charter can't be dissolved. Before Walt started construction on WDW he had the Florida State House pass an amendment creating RCID. RCID does have a few residence and a government. With the money WDW generates nobody in the Florida State House is going to change anything.

Here is RCID's web site:

http://www.rcid.org/

emnbensdad · Post by **emnbensdad** » Mar Wed 25, 2009 10:05 pm

Jacca5660 wrote:Their charter can't be dissolved. Before Walt started construction on WDW he had the Florida State House pass an amendment creating RCID. RCID does have a few residence and a government. With the money WDW generates nobody in the Florida State House is going to change anything.

Here is RCID's web site:

http://www.rcid.org/

Wow . . . it is interesting to see that there is sooooo much money involved in everything that goes on behind the scenes (backstage). We sometimes forget that WDW (or DL) are still "places" and affected by "government" just like other places. It takes a lot behind the scenes to keep things running smoothly on stage!

DisBeamer · Post by **DisBeamer** » Apr Fri 03, 2009 2:57 am

Jacca5660 wrote:RCID does have a few residence and a government.

At one point I knew where those were... I think there are some north and east of the MK, and there's one sort of ... diagonally between the MK and AK (which was, as I recall, the house Walt and Lillian stayed in when he was buying land). Could probably find them on google earth or maps live or somesuch.

I know there's a Mayor for Lake Buena Vista, but there's some sort of statute about how many residents there can be before they require a school board (if I'm remembering this right... it's been years since I looked into all of it). So I think the max total number of residents is only ever about two dozen.

samuraiblue · Post by **samuraiblue** » Apr Mon 06, 2009 10:02 am

emnbensdad wrote:
Jacca5660 wrote:Their charter can't be dissolved. Before Walt started construction on WDW he had the Florida State House pass an amendment creating RCID. RCID does have a few residence and a government. With the money WDW generates nobody in the Florida State House is going to change anything.

Here is RCID's web site:

http://www.rcid.org/
Wow . . . it is interesting to see that there is sooooo much money involved in everything that goes on behind the scenes (backstage). We sometimes forget that WDW (or DL) are still "places" and affected by "government" just like other places. It takes a lot behind the scenes to keep things running smoothly on stage!

As far as I know that's essentially the current day reasoning behind it. So that Disney can have a seperate "structure" outside of the company/parks to deal with things such as Fire/Health, Roadways, Code Enforcement, etc.

But one of the additional key elements would be first aid and safety... With Disney having "essentially" it's own Health Department, they can then station full service healthcare and first aid in all the Parks and Resorts, Plus, by being in control of the Fire Department, they could make the Fire Codes much more structured for public safety...