Refurbs/Upgrades: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly . . .

Chernabog · Post by **Chernabog** » Aug Fri 29, 2008 10:10 am

On different forums different people have made many a snide remark in regard to upgradaing and/or refurbishing rides. While the intention is to always improve the ride, apparently most of you do not agree that is the outcome. So, my questions are:

What is your favorite refurb/upgrade?

What refurb/upgrade took away from the original ride/show?

Please pick (rate) your top one and bottom two:
The Good:
The Bad:
The Ugly:

Cheshire Cat · Post by **Cheshire Cat** » Aug Fri 29, 2008 10:24 am

Good: 2007 Haunted Mansion Refurb

Bad:2007 Spaceship Earth Refurb

Ugly: All JII Refurbs

agingerbugg · Post by **agingerbugg** » Aug Fri 29, 2008 10:55 am

The good: HM refurb at WDW. It has done nothing, but enhance the story of the ride. It is now very clear that its the story of a "black widow" bride who kills her husbands and we the rider fall/get pushed out an attic window and die.

The Bad: SSE refurb. It isn't the worst but it is far from the best. When did Disney decide that the guests are idiots? The script for the narration is aweful. I have heard more intelligent scripts about communication on Sesame Street. I appreciate the nod to Horizons at the end, however it is very, very campy.

Which leads me to...

The ugly: This is a tough one. I think the one I disliked the most was the Horizons to Mission:Space refurb. Yes, Horizons needed some work, after 17 years what doesn't need some updating, but to remove a groundbreaking attraction and replace it with an inferior attraction is tragic, whatever the reasons.

Chernabog · Post by **Chernabog** » Aug Fri 29, 2008 12:45 pm

Cheshire Cat, pardon my ignorance, but what is "JII"?

Post by **js3901** » Aug Fri 29, 2008 12:48 pm

Chernabog wrote:Cheshire Cat, pardon my ignorance, but what is "JII"?

Journey Into Imagination

meticulus9 · Post by **meticulus9** » Aug Fri 29, 2008 7:54 pm

the good: pirates or HM
the bad: SSE or JII
the ugly: how about a lack of maintaince for SM?, but if I had to pick a rehab: UofE (aka the exxon pavilon)- lets just keep burning gas while we ignore the questionable global warming according to Bill Nye

yodiwan1 · Post by **yodiwan1** » Aug Fri 29, 2008 10:11 pm

The good=Haunted mansion

Bad=JII

Ugly=20,000 under the sea, changed into Pooh's Poo Place!!!!

meticulus9 · Post by **meticulus9** » Aug Sat 30, 2008 7:29 am

yodi's ugly is something i havent thought about, but the kids seem to like it. on the other hand what a large waste of space. lets get an e ticket in there soon.

Lion Sleeps Tonight · Post by **Lion Sleeps Tonight** » Aug Sat 30, 2008 4:28 pm

Good: Haunted Mansion- the fixing of the lights, the sound and the added room definitely is better than good, it's great

Bad: Spaceship Earth- What used to be my favorite attraction, is now just 'okay' to me. It's hardly inspiring anymore

Ugly: Tiki Room Under New Management- Disney, I will never forgive you

I've never been on the original Journey Into Imagination, so there is nothing to compare it to, but seriously, I cringe at the thought that some Disney official went on it, and said, "oh this is good" (same goes to Nemo)

Post by **acp** » Sep Mon 01, 2008 8:32 am

These are going from what I've heard, since I've only been to WDW once

Good: WWTBAM -> Toy Story Midway Mania

Bad: Spaceship Earth

Ugly: Alien Encounter -> Stitch's Great Escape (I can't believe that noone's mentioned this yet!)

Andy.

wdwgirly · Post by **wdwgirly** » Sep Mon 01, 2008 6:37 pm

The good=Haunted mansion

Bad=20,000 under the sea, changed into Pooh's Poo Place!!!!

Ugly=Nothing in WDW is ugly

Post by **acp** » Sep Tue 02, 2008 2:29 pm

wdwgirly wrote:Ugly=Nothing in WDW is ugly

Are you sure about that

Andy.

IMFearless · Post by **IMFearless** » Sep Tue 02, 2008 4:19 pm

Keep in mind, I haven't been since early 2005.
The good: The Tower of Terror upgrades. Particularly v3 to v4. Surprised nobody has brought those up yet; some of the most amazing engineering in existence. That's what makes the WDW version so unique.
The bad: Enchanted Tiki Room - Under New Management. Yes, I will admit, I was initially psyched by the addition of Iago and Zazu (two of my favorite characters), but since the upgrade, my family has only been in that room TWICE. Way to ruin an awesome show. (Though, downright amazed by the number of SSE's here - I haven't been on the new one, is it really that bad?!?!)
The ugly: Andy wins this topic. And a cookie. And the internetz. All of them.

elizabethswann · Post by **elizabethswann** » Sep Tue 02, 2008 4:26 pm

This is helpful to me though I've never been to WDW. Whenever I visit, I'll be sure to keep this in mind.

HSolo29 · Post by **HSolo29** » Sep Tue 02, 2008 10:37 pm

I haven't been there since 2005 and this list is bound to change after my next trip, but for now:

Good: PotC (saw all the new stuff out in DLR last year)

Bad: Journey Into Imagination - the current reincarnation is leaps and bounds above the horrid Journey Into YOUR Imagination, but it's still not as good as the original.

Ugly: Tiki Room Under New Management - Ugh, cannot stand this at all. Just horrible.