Great Movie Ride - What would you do?
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- Main Street Horse Car Coachman
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The "film" at the end does need to be remastered - the visual quality as well as the transition effects are outdated. I certainly have no problems with "classic" films from the ride or in the closing film, but Sister Act really doesn't qualify as well as some of the others that have been added recently. Just clean it up - oh, digital projectors would be nice.
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I find it interesting that several of us have mentioned Sister Act as really not fitting the movie (myself included
). Is it really the only sore thumb that sticks out? Maybe it's just because it happens to fill the whole screen at that point. *ponders*
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I remember seeing a couple Disney films that didn't fit the mold, especially when you consider the absolute classics surrounding them.
I just watched the montage on YouTube, and another jarring aspect of the Sister Act thing is that it's one of the first films of semi-recent memory, and it gets more time, attention, and screen size than the genuine classics.
Three Men and a Baby strikes me as another Disney film that's out of place.
You could make the argument that Good Morning, Vietnam doesn't really belong there either, or at least that it gets too much attention.
Otherwise, most of the other Disney stuff definitely belongs there. The Lady and the Tramp scene is particularly well-used.
After watching it again, I can sort of see the desire to add some new films, but it's tough to make the case that many new ones should be shown in that company.
I just watched the montage on YouTube, and another jarring aspect of the Sister Act thing is that it's one of the first films of semi-recent memory, and it gets more time, attention, and screen size than the genuine classics.
Three Men and a Baby strikes me as another Disney film that's out of place.
You could make the argument that Good Morning, Vietnam doesn't really belong there either, or at least that it gets too much attention.
Otherwise, most of the other Disney stuff definitely belongs there. The Lady and the Tramp scene is particularly well-used.
After watching it again, I can sort of see the desire to add some new films, but it's tough to make the case that many new ones should be shown in that company.
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Oh yeah, Three Men and a Baby. That ranks up there with Sister Act in terms of things that can be removed. Good Morning, Vietnam I'll cut slack to because it has the sort of iconic catch phrase (or at least, oft used catch phrase).
I'll have to hunt down the montage if it's on YouTube and take another look to see what's missing (or missing in my opinion...). Should be good for killing some time, anyway.
I was thinking about this some more yesterday (things keep coming up that remind me of it), and I'm starting to think part of the reason the ride seems sort of tired is because the park has changed around it. The history of the movies fit theme fit pretty well when the park opened, as it was the 'Hollywood that never was, and always will be', and so having it review the origin(? bad word for it) of certain genres fit. Now that the park has turned away from that theming, I think it makes the older/less ... universally recognized films stand out (not in a good way).
It'd be hard to do, since as it's been mentioned several times in this thread it's hard to point to really recent movies and declare that they will be classics with any certainty, but it'd be interesting, I think, to link the older films to newer ones in the same genre (like how that Footlight Parade inspired later musicals, or whatever). Honestly I think the ideal thing to do would be to expand the current ride to include some of the classic benchmark films that it's missing, but we all know that's not going to happen. *continues to ponder*
I'll have to hunt down the montage if it's on YouTube and take another look to see what's missing (or missing in my opinion...). Should be good for killing some time, anyway.
I was thinking about this some more yesterday (things keep coming up that remind me of it), and I'm starting to think part of the reason the ride seems sort of tired is because the park has changed around it. The history of the movies fit theme fit pretty well when the park opened, as it was the 'Hollywood that never was, and always will be', and so having it review the origin(? bad word for it) of certain genres fit. Now that the park has turned away from that theming, I think it makes the older/less ... universally recognized films stand out (not in a good way).
It'd be hard to do, since as it's been mentioned several times in this thread it's hard to point to really recent movies and declare that they will be classics with any certainty, but it'd be interesting, I think, to link the older films to newer ones in the same genre (like how that Footlight Parade inspired later musicals, or whatever). Honestly I think the ideal thing to do would be to expand the current ride to include some of the classic benchmark films that it's missing, but we all know that's not going to happen. *continues to ponder*
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Well, charting the path from Captain Blood to the Disney Pirates movies could satisfy all interests. Johnny Depp did get the Oscar nomination, so it's a fair claim that it's in some way a classic. There's also a rich history of terrific Westerns, sci-fi, and other genres you could do this with.
...but I think I'd still prefer the basic flow of the existing montage, starting with very early films and (more or less) progressing forward.
Although some of the best bits are when they stick classic scenes with similar elements together, so it's not really necessary to be completely linear with the timeline.
Basically, I agree...it needs more movies of every era.
At least Hitch got some representation (and I'm not talking about the recent Will Smith movie)...
...but I think I'd still prefer the basic flow of the existing montage, starting with very early films and (more or less) progressing forward.
Although some of the best bits are when they stick classic scenes with similar elements together, so it's not really necessary to be completely linear with the timeline.
Basically, I agree...it needs more movies of every era.
At least Hitch got some representation (and I'm not talking about the recent Will Smith movie)...
I just watched the montage on You Tube. It's pretty decent in terms of hitting the stuff that absolutely has to be there.
As other have pointed out, I could stand to see less stuff that's there just because it's Disney. Sister Act and 3 Men and a Baby are the two worst offenders. I can handle Good Morning, Vietnam. But it seems to be getting more attention than it warrants. I'll throw in Shakespear in Love as a film that probably wouldn't be in there if it weren't Miramax (in spite of all the Oscars it won).
I didn't see Pirates of the Caribean in there. Has that been added?
Some representation of the Lord of the Rings or Matrix trilogies would be nice. (Again, they could be there and I just didn't see them.)
The only Woody Allen I saw was Take the Money and Run. No Annie Hall or Manhattan?
They used two of my favorite Hitchcock films (North by Northwest and Notorious). If they used Psycho, I missed it.
No Superman, Batman or Spiderman? Super-hero movies are genre, right?
Just a few reactions off the top of my head.
As other have pointed out, I could stand to see less stuff that's there just because it's Disney. Sister Act and 3 Men and a Baby are the two worst offenders. I can handle Good Morning, Vietnam. But it seems to be getting more attention than it warrants. I'll throw in Shakespear in Love as a film that probably wouldn't be in there if it weren't Miramax (in spite of all the Oscars it won).
I didn't see Pirates of the Caribean in there. Has that been added?
Some representation of the Lord of the Rings or Matrix trilogies would be nice. (Again, they could be there and I just didn't see them.)
The only Woody Allen I saw was Take the Money and Run. No Annie Hall or Manhattan?
They used two of my favorite Hitchcock films (North by Northwest and Notorious). If they used Psycho, I missed it.
No Superman, Batman or Spiderman? Super-hero movies are genre, right?
Just a few reactions off the top of my head.
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- Mark Twain Steamboat Captain
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Wow!No Superman, Batman or Spiderman? Super-hero movies are genre, right?
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I think you've discovered soemthing the ride could use. Superhero movies are definitely a big defining genre in today's day and age. Although they've always been around, they're really just starting to be perfected with all the computer special effects.
And Pirates is in there now... I'm not sure about LotR...
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It's no where near my favorite attraction. But it would be a real shame to shut down GMR.ghostelias wrote:I think the ride and movie are way past it's time. Personally i would never go in there again so i personally think Disney should rip out the attraction and put something new and fresh in it's place.
1. It's still new for a lot of tourists.
2. It's one of the biggest and most impressive animatronic dark rides anywhere. They are unlikely to build another one like this.
3. There are still so many other parts of the Studios that could be fixed up before the need to rip out GMR.
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I'm a fan of the older movies more than the newer stuff...I think I went to see POTC 2&3 and before that it was the 3rd Austin Powers, and I think before that it was.......2nd Austin Powers??????not sure on that one. But I watch more of the older films and TV shows so for me GMR is just right......But I do think some of the CM could use an adrenaline shot before they start work....
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Great ideas, Chesire!Cheshire Cat wrote:Tarzan could become Narnia or Lord of the Rings or something. I don't really know what type of genre Tarzan is to begin with. This is really falling apart in my face.
Wait Wait! Awesome idea for Fantasia! Intead of just small film clip of Sorcerer Mickey, why not a whole room to depict the Animation genre. The walls could be made of the same stuff Animator's Palate is made of and as the vehicles move through the Animation covering the walls could transform to color![]()
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I would replace Tarzan and add something that came out later than the 1980's. It would be nice to select a groundbreaking film of the 90's. That way, the montage could be updated to feature new stuff. Just my opinion.
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After learning a lot more about film-making and movies in general, I'd probably stick to adding movies from the National Film Registry or significant films that aren't exactly on the list, but of the same caliber. Most of these movies are significant milestones and universally enjoyed by people (once they get past the fact that the movie is "old").
I like the rule of the movie having to be at least ten years old. This mkaes sure the movie can stand the test of time and make it so the ride doesn't seem too modern, which would clash with overall theming of Hollywood Blvd. (the finale is supposed to show the more modern films, while the ride itself should be reserved for milsestones)
I like the rule of the movie having to be at least ten years old. This mkaes sure the movie can stand the test of time and make it so the ride doesn't seem too modern, which would clash with overall theming of Hollywood Blvd. (the finale is supposed to show the more modern films, while the ride itself should be reserved for milsestones)