No Fox News Channel @ WDW

[TheCheshireStitch]

It may also be offered at different resorts, actually. Not all of the resorts carry the same set of channels. (Toon Disney, for instance, was not carried at all on-property resorts, last I checked - you could get it at CBR but not the Polynesian a few years back. Which I find bizarre, but whatever...)

wow! i never knew this. i just assumed all resorts had the same channels...

we'll be staying at the poly and at animal kingdom lodge in may...i'll definitely have to do a channel comparison!

[flyingcowofdoom]

This is very true; there are also some other not-Disney/ABC stations on the dial there, including the (very cool, imo) Asian and German channels, depending on your hotel.

It may just be they don't have room to fit it in their grouping, or can't strike a deal with FOX News to carry it on property. It may also be offered at different resorts, actually. Not all of the resorts carry the same set of channels. (Toon Disney, for instance, was not carried at all on-property resorts, last I checked - you could get it at CBR but not the Polynesian a few years back. Which I find bizarre, but whatever...)

Excellent points! I wonder if it's available at any of the resorts. In which were you staying, ericpabear?

--FCOD

[DisBeamer]

wow! i never knew this. i just assumed all resorts had the same channels...

we'll be staying at the poly and at animal kingdom lodge in may...i'll definitely have to do a channel comparison!

I never understood why (or even how) it was possible the listings were different, but I do distinctly remember feeling ripped off that I couldn't watch Toon Disney when I was paying more for the room. They may have made things more even across the boards now; it didn't occur to me to check in December POFQ versus the Contemporary.

[Captain Schnemo]

If it makes everyone feel better, liberals get screwed by a lack of Comedy Central (ie, no Daily Show/Colbert Report).

[acp]

anyone dissing fox news...how immature. we're supposed to be open-minded and friendly on the forums...ericpabear wasn't talking about anything offensively political, just that he was upset that the station wasn't available.

to get all opinionated, inflammatory, and just plain rude to a reasonable question is kind of uncalled for, in my opinion.

Immature, or just poking fun at something that deserves it? Personally I find it hard to take a news outlet seriously when the lead story on their world news page is that a snake ate a dog. Surely there's more important things going on in the world?

I tend to put FoxNews in the same category as The Sun newspaper we have over here ( www.thesun.co.uk ), often over-exaggerating things to make them more interesting, etc.. Perfect example would be yesterday's earthquake reporting in the aforementioned "newspaper":

Stunned Mark Young said he looked out of his window and saw an EIGHT FOOT crack in his neighbour’s garden at LEICESTER.

He said: “There was a big crack through the ground and there was smoke and flames coming out. It was spitting things out.

“It is eight foot long and two foot wide.â€

[lebeau]

anyone dissing fox news...how immature. we're supposed to be open-minded and friendly on the forums...ericpabear wasn't talking about anything offensively political, just that he was upset that the station wasn't available.

to get all opinionated, inflammatory, and just plain rude to a reasonable question is kind of uncalled for, in my opinion.

I can't see how it would be "immature" or "rude" to state my opinion that Fox news is awful. It's not like I was taking pot shots at people who watch it. I fully stand by the opinion that it is an awful network.

I won't bother listing all of the "sins" of the Fox News Network. People can form their own opinions of it. Watch it if you enjoy it. I'd personally block it from my satellite line-up if I could.

I found the original post came across as having an attitude of entitlement. Why would anyone be surprised to find Fox News isn't offered? There are lots of channels that are not offered. Not surprisingly, Disney packs the line-up with their own stations first.

I wouldn't come on here complaining that my "walk of life" isn't being represented because my favorite channel isn't on the resort line-up. (And, incidentally, it's not.)

Personally, I found this response much more rude than a criticism of a network.

[flyingcowofdoom]

Immature, or just poking fun at something that deserves it? Personally I find it hard to take a news outlet seriously when the lead story on their world news page is that a snake ate a dog. Surely there's more important things going on in the world?

Yes, like this transgendered talk show host (taken from the "BBC World Service Highlights" section of the main page of the BBC World Service).

I found the original post came across as having an attitude of entitlement. Why would anyone be surprised to find Fox News isn't offered? There are lots of channels that are not offered. Not surprisingly, Disney packs the line-up with their own stations first.

The point was, that of (what I consider to be) the three major 24-hour US news networks (CNN, MSNBC, and FNC), FNC is the only one not offered. Talking about the rest of the channel lineup is irrelevant in the context of this post. The discussion is about why Disney carries two major 24-hour news networks and not all three. So far, the only person to suggest a rational explanation is DisBeamer...

So far, the suggested explanations for why it's not carried it are:
1) It's awful. -- That's a valid opinion, but it's not a reason why Disney wouldn't carry the FNC.
2) It's not a Disney-owned channel. -- Neither are CNN or MSNBC.
3) They don't have many channels on the lineup. -- If they are trying to keep the lineup short why bother with two 24-hour news networks? Why not just one?
4) Fox shows poke fun at Disney. -- Ridiculous. They carry the channels that play the aforementioned shows. Also, the new American Idol attraction is based on a Fox show.
5) They couldn't reach a deal to carry the network. -- Finally, a post that actually contributes to the discussion.

I wouldn't say anyone was being rude, but I don't see very much meaningful contribution to the discussion. The first three responses to the OP were people presenting opinions in a way that effectively mocked the OP...not very mature, if you ask me.

--FCOD

[Calypso]

Regardless of people's opinions of FNC, the question is a valid one. Why isn't FNC being carried when the other two major 24 hour new channels are carried? Has Disney intentionally eliminated FNC from its lineup? I don't think so. Since it seems different resorts carry different lineups, there are other factors at work here and probably other parties, such as the service provider.

I really don't think Disney cares what news program guests watch. Disney is providing a service that they know will be switched off when guests are done getting ready in the morning or when they fall asleep at night. Disney still profits from you being in their room, so why would they care what you watch?

[DIAC1987]

"So far, the suggested explanations for why it's not carried it are:
1) It's awful. -- That's a valid opinion, but it's not a reason why Disney wouldn't carry the FNC.
2) It's not a Disney-owned channel. -- Neither are CNN or MSNBC.
3) They don't have many channels on the lineup. -- If they are trying to keep the lineup short why bother with two 24-hour news networks? Why not just one?
4) Fox shows poke fun at Disney. -- Ridiculous. They carry the channels that play the aforementioned shows. Also, the new American Idol attraction is based on a Fox show.
5) They couldn't reach a deal to carry the network. -- Finally, a post that actually contributes to the discussion.

I wouldn't say anyone was being rude, but I don't see very much meaningful contribution to the discussion. The first three responses to the OP were people presenting opinions in a way that effectively mocked the OP...not very mature, if you ask me."

Well, if I knew the ACTUAL reason why they don't carry the network, of course I would present it. But, I don't, so the best I can do is guess and check. Odds are they couldn't carry a deal to carry the network, however, why is it so much trouble when Disney carries all the other news stations (and the local Fox network)? Why is Fox News Channel the troublesome one?

Comedy Central probably isn't carried because it contains uncut profanity in the middle of the night--same goes with AMC (I was watching Raging Bull uncut at midnight one time).

I find it odd that Fox News Channel happens to be the ONLY channel not in that specific Disney resort. There has to be more to the tale than a mere "We couldn't reach a deal."

As for my theory about The Simpsons, I wasn't really serious...

[lebeau]

The point was, that of (what I consider to be) the three major 24-hour US news networks (CNN, MSNBC, and FNC), FNC is the only one not offered. Talking about the rest of the channel lineup is irrelevant in the context of this post. The discussion is about why Disney carries two major 24-hour news networks and not all three. So far, the only person to suggest a rational explanation is DisBeamer...

So far, the suggested explanations for why it's not carried it are:
1) It's awful. -- That's a valid opinion, but it's not a reason why Disney wouldn't carry the FNC.
2) It's not a Disney-owned channel. -- Neither are CNN or MSNBC.
3) They don't have many channels on the lineup. -- If they are trying to keep the lineup short why bother with two 24-hour news networks? Why not just one?
4) Fox shows poke fun at Disney. -- Ridiculous. They carry the channels that play the aforementioned shows. Also, the new American Idol attraction is based on a Fox show.
5) They couldn't reach a deal to carry the network. -- Finally, a post that actually contributes to the discussion.

I wouldn't say anyone was being rude, but I don't see very much meaningful contribution to the discussion. The first three responses to the OP were people presenting opinions in a way that effectively mocked the OP...not very mature, if you ask me.

--FCOD

Actually, Disney may have decided not to carry FNC because they think it's awful. It's actually a pretty widely held opinion. Just as there are obviously a lot of people who hold the opinion that it is worth watching.

There's really no point speculating about why Disney doesn't carry the channel. There are dozens of reasons why they might not carry any given channel, much less one as divisive as Fox News.

I still don't see the point of calling anyone "immature" because they are critical of a cable channel. Once again, these kinds of comments are the only ones I have seen where anyone has been personally mocked or insulted in any way.

[flyingcowofdoom]

Actually, Disney may have decided not to carry FNC because they think it's awful. It's actually a pretty widely held opinion. Just as there are obviously a lot of people who hold the opinion that it is worth watching.

So what you're saying is...a lot of people like FNC and a lot of people dislike FNC? I doubt that the company that owns ABC Radio would choose not to carry a TV channel because of an alleged conservative bias.

There's really no point speculating about why Disney doesn't carry the channel.

Perhaps, but you didn't start the thread. ericpabear obviously thought there was a point to discussing it...

I still don't see the point of calling anyone "immature" because they are critical of a cable channel. Once again, these kinds of comments are the only ones I have seen where anyone has been personally mocked or insulted in any way.

What I consider to be immature is three people coming into a thread that was intended to be a discussion about why FNC isn't carried at WDW just to say "That channel is stupid."

--FCOD

[SWHorn]

There's really no point speculating about why Disney doesn't carry the channel. There are dozens of reasons why they might not carry any given channel, much less one as divisive as Fox News.

Why not? Because there are dozens of reasons? Is this not a discussion board? We better not discuss anything that doesn't have a clear-cut answer from now on because there is really no point.

FWIW, I watch Fox News when I pick a news channel. It used to be MUCH better than it is now. I don't know why they cover so many "missing hot 20 year old girl" stories. But, when it comes down to it, they do cover important news when it comes up.

Personally, I think CNN is awful. I can't handle the biased liberal babble, so why does Disney carry it?

Seriously, I think it was a perfectly valid question for ericpabear to pose.

[TheCheshireStitch]

flyingcowofdoom, they don't get the point. i've tried to reiterate the fact that ericpabear was just pointing out that wdw did not carry the channel, and was wondering why.

i think it's hilarious that people say there's no point in speculating it for the sake of discussion. a lot of these forums are speculating discussions on disney rumors, the way disney works, and why disney do/don't do certain things.

also, acp, fox news is often criticized for being too conservative. it is not a "sun" kind of channel....it does not have a reputation in the states for airing "crazy" or odd news. like all 24 hour news channels, they do have human interest or strange news now and then to fill air time (again, all 24 hour news stations in the states do this). the main disliking/criticism of fox news by some people is that it's biased towards the right politically-- not that it's a "national enquirer" type situation.

i'm not going to say whether i agree or disagree with that criticism because this board was not meant to be political, accusatory, or insulting as some have tried to turn it into.

[lebeau]

So what you're saying is...a lot of people like FNC and a lot of people dislike FNC? I doubt that the company that owns ABC Radio would choose not to carry a TV channel because of an alleged conservative bias.

You may doubt it. Doesn't mean it's not true. I can't think of a station offered in the resorts which is as controversial as Fox News.

Perhaps, but you didn't start the thread. ericpabear obviously thought there was a point to discussing it...

Obviously ericpabear and I disagree on the merits of the question.

What I consider to be immature is three people coming into a thread that was intended to be a discussion about why FNC isn't carried at WDW just to say "That channel is stupid."

--FCOD

Have you read my original post? Because I said more than "That channel is stupid."

However, I disagree with your assertion that such a response would be immature.

What's immature about it? He asked why it wasn't offered by Disney a several people essentially responded that it wasn't worth offering.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

[lebeau]

Why not? Because there are dozens of reasons? Is this not a discussion board? We better not discuss anything that doesn't have a clear-cut answer from now on because there is really no point.

FWIW, I watch Fox News when I pick a news channel. It used to be MUCH better than it is now. I don't know why they cover so many "missing hot 20 year old girl" stories. But, when it comes down to it, they do cover important news when it comes up.

Personally, I think CNN is awful. I can't handle the biased liberal babble, so why does Disney carry it?

Seriously, I think it was a perfectly valid question for ericpabear to pose.

Fine. Speculate to your heart's content.

I'll speculate as to why FN carries so many "missing hot 20 year old girl" stories. It's called "pandering to your audience." If people stopped watching those stories, they'd stop running them.

I don't know why Disney carried one news channel over another. But it never would have occurred to me to feel slighted by their decision.

If they decided to drop CNN and MSNBC and carry Fox instead, I could care less.