New Orleans the harsh reality

Club33Hopeful · Post by **Club33Hopeful** » Sep Thu 01, 2005 9:46 pm

Well, I agree with most everything you two said. However, I few things I would like to point out that irked me:

Don't worry though - the brains at the white house vetoed it and gave them less than a quarter of what they needed.

Why is the federal governments responsibility to fix a problem in NO with funds from the whole country? I am all for taxes being collected and spent locally for all but a few things such as National Defense. At the most, it should be up to the state of LA, and at the least, NO themselves. In the bay area we pay extra sales tax for things like BART. They should collect and extra local tax to fix levees and such. But why provide for yourself when you can beg off of others and blame them when it fails?

and more realistic picture than CNN and the likes on fed. aid]

CNN and the other networks are not on Fed Aid. I don't believe everything FEMA says. I saw interview after interview with people saying they chose to saty because they didn't think it would be that bad. To be fair, I also heard a few people say they had nowhere to go. You cannot tell me that all of the estimated 60,000 people had no place to go. There are an awful lot of cars under water at these homes of people that had nowhere to go. There are an awful lot of able-bodied people looting stores and causing vandalism and destruction, but they were too weak to leave?

Yes, they should have planned better. But a large portion of the problem is caused by the people who chose to stay.

G2-4T · Post by **G2-4T** » Sep Thu 01, 2005 10:05 pm

Yeah, I can understand looting for food and water - it isn't being delivered and water is needed to live. But come on - do you really need that big TV? And just where are you going to plug it in? The idiocy and greed is unreal.

There are folks dying everywhere - just in place, in chairs, on the curbs, etc. The convention center was said to have food on the way when this all started and the city sent over 10-20,000 there. Now they are trapped there since no supplies arrived and the water rose up around them. There are dead people in there and the rest are completely w/o water and supplies. Tonight on NPR they talked to the homeland security guy in charge [I can't remember his name] and he claimed "there is no one there [the con. center] - I will not listen to your rumors". The reporters blew a gasket in the interview - they had reporters, cops, rescue teams, and more all say how many were there and this guy claimed they were all lying - that shows just how poorly the gov't is managing this. Too few people to do so much work - mainly rescue & patrol the streets which is a massive task.

The local media here wondered what would happen when all our National Guard was sent away and a natural disaster hit since they are the main heavy duty help [security, transport, etc.] - that was a couple weeks ago before all this.... No need to wonder now.

Just have to feel bad for all the folks there, esp. the rescuers and medics that are getting shot at - who in the world would even do that?

Club33Hopeful · Post by **Club33Hopeful** » Sep Fri 02, 2005 12:20 pm

Interesting article from October 2004 National Geographic that predicted this exactly.

http://205.188.130.53/ngm/0410/feature5 ... raphic.com

MouseMan · Post by **MouseMan** » Sep Fri 02, 2005 1:00 pm

NO is too important of a location. Someone will want to rebuild there. It may not be that difficult to raise the city when they rebuild it. All they need to do is use all the garbage as a landfill over the low areas before they build on top of it. They could even truck more in from MS. Some of the Chicago shoreline along Lake Michigan is actually a garbage landfill so they have buildings and parks there where the lake was a hundred years ago.

Fantasrick · Post by **Fantasrick** » Sep Sun 25, 2005 2:42 pm

It is sad to see such devastation in New Orleans.

borjoyzee · Post by **borjoyzee** » Sep Sun 25, 2005 3:44 pm

too bad this has to happen to them, going to be a while for the city to be back normal

ericpabear · Post by **ericpabear** » Nov Fri 25, 2005 10:55 am

I just came across this topic. I am a native of New Orleans. I moved 30 miles north, a bunch of years ago. Our little town, and most of the coast, are pretty wiped out. Alot worse than New Orleans,(my oppion) .Not all the people who could not get out of New Orleans were crimanals, but a bunch were. Texas and other states where the evacuees went are haveing crime surges. New Orleans has not been this safe since the sixties. The people that didn't evactuate New Orleans were depended on the goverment for everything. They have been taught to do nothing to better themselves and recieve just about everything free. So they waited for their free ride. The United states sends Billions over seas to people who don't like us. They only want our money. We sould be able to re-build any city in America without any trouble. New Orleans has flooded before, and has been rebuilt. And it will be rebuilt again and again. This storm was a rare event. (if we are in the "tribulation" period, this is just the begining) The homes should be raised to meet the base flood elevations the rest of us have to build to. But you can not predict a cat. 5 flood elevation. Most of the raised houses in New Orleans made it. The houses along the coast are gone, regardless of their heighth. Other communities continue to be wipe out year after year by tornados or noreaterly storms or earthqukes etc. and are rebuilt time after time. Why should New Orleans be any different.