The return of Captain EO

mindflipper · Post by **mindflipper** » Mar Thu 18, 2010 2:32 pm

Imagination Pavillion needs to be changed from top to bottom, but with the current MK Fantasyland Expansion any hope of such renovation will not be in the immediate future.

Esmeralda · Post by **Esmeralda** » Mar Fri 19, 2010 2:50 pm

^Bring back the REAL Imagination!!!

Now back to the topic at hand. How are the EO lines? Is it going over big with the locals?

theBIGyowski · Post by **theBIGyowski** » Mar Fri 19, 2010 3:05 pm

You know...with the international appeal that Michael Jackson had...you would think this would be huge at WDW. I know he is probably better received out in LA, but the amount of international visitors that come to WDW would be enough, I think, to make it a success in Orlando for at least a period of time.

After all of this is over, maybe they will bring in a new movie. Something themed to Meet the Robinson's would be such an EPIC WIN that it would completely revitalize that whole pavilion. That whole theme dealing with imagination, believing in yourself, and never giving up are exactly what Walt had in mind with Epcot.

WHO'S WITH ME?!?!?

MmeLeota · Post by **MmeLeota** » Mar Fri 19, 2010 3:44 pm

theBIGyowski wrote:After all of this is over, maybe they will bring in a new movie. Something themed to Meet the Robinson's would be such an EPIC WIN that it would completely revitalize that whole pavilion. That whole theme dealing with imagination, believing in yourself, and never giving up are exactly what Walt had in mind with Epcot.

WHO'S WITH ME?!?!?

AMEN!!! Very well stated!
Earlier in this thread, inkydog and I were discussing the same idea...

pixiesparkles · Post by **pixiesparkles** » Apr Thu 22, 2010 12:00 pm

Sadly, I agree. I enjoyed Captain EO when I visited WDW as a teenager...when Michael Jackson was extremely popular. But, it is like going back in time and listening to disco on the radio all of the time....it had its moment but do we really want it back permanently??? Don't think so.

Post by **subsonic** » Apr Thu 22, 2010 12:20 pm

I saw Captain EO a few weeks ago. I was disappointed. I was there for the first press showing when EO first opened in the 80's and was there for the final cast performance when it closed in the 90's. I really used to enjoy EO and after seeing it think it's better than Honey. It's more of a story and not just a mish-mash of gags and gimmicks. EO draws you in more.

So, when I saw it's re-release recently I was underwhelmed. The opening with the stars rotating in was gone, that was such an immersive effect. The lasers gone. The flashlight spotlight was gone. The film wasn't touched up. No fog effect. It was sad. The lasers and spotlight could have been an easy addition, just mount something to the ceiling in the back.

As far as enhancements went, the floor moved. I thought this was cool during the battle scene. It worked well. But... then the dancing happened. And the floor bounced to the beat the ENTIRE time. It got annoying and then felt cheesy.

It was nice to see MJ with his super white teeth lighting up the screen but, to me, it was another nail in the coffin by Disney's money hammer which tries to ride on the "what's popular now" wave and has stopped exceeding expectations and just meets (or sometimes falls short of meeting) them. Another loss in my book for Disney.

I want to interject something here. I recently saw Terminator 3-D at Universal again (I have seen it many times over the years) and I have to say that it's very good. It's truly a 4-D experience. From using live actors and live robots to eventually revealing 3 huge screens to fully immerse you into the experience. Disney needs to look at T 3-D as well as Spider-Man the Ride to see how to exceed expectations.

MmeLeota · Post by **MmeLeota** » Apr Thu 22, 2010 12:35 pm

As far as enhancements went, the floor moved. I thought this was cool during the battle scene. It worked well. But... then the dancing happened. And the floor bounced to the beat the ENTIRE time. It got annoying and then felt cheesy.

I totally agree on this! I hated the moving floor throughout the entire dance scene! (though it was a nice addition to the battle scene like you mentioned) I had forgotten about the opening...thanks for reminding me. It had been so long since seeing it I honestly couldn't remember everything about it.

Amy · Post by **Amy** » Apr Thu 22, 2010 1:33 pm

subsonic wrote:And the floor bounced to the beat the ENTIRE time.

They might have to start handing out barf bags if they continue that!

((Pssstt! Hey Jacca, I need a barfing emoticon *here*))

MmeLeota · Post by **MmeLeota** » Apr Thu 22, 2010 1:38 pm

Amy wrote:
subsonic wrote:And the floor bounced to the beat the ENTIRE time.
They might have to start handing out barf bags if they continue that!

You know, I don't get motion sickness easily (unless flipped upside down, then my inner ear does crazy things and *in my best baby speak* I fall down and go boom), but if that floor moved another minute or so, I might have needed a bag....

Mousekedude · Post by **Mousekedude** » Apr Thu 22, 2010 3:55 pm

MmeLeota wrote:
theBIGyowski wrote:After all of this is over, maybe they will bring in a new movie. Something themed to Meet the Robinson's would be such an EPIC WIN that it would completely revitalize that whole pavilion. That whole theme dealing with imagination, believing in yourself, and never giving up are exactly what Walt had in mind with Epcot.

WHO'S WITH ME?!?!?
AMEN!!! Very well stated!
Earlier in this thread, inkydog and I were discussing the same idea...

I'll second, third, and fourth those sentiments! There is soooooo much Disney could do with Meet the Robinsons!

elizabethswann · Post by **elizabethswann** » Apr Thu 22, 2010 4:04 pm

MmeLeota wrote:
Amy wrote:
subsonic wrote:And the floor bounced to the beat the ENTIRE time.
They might have to start handing out barf bags if they continue that!
You know, I don't get motion sickness easily (unless flipped upside down, then my inner ear does crazy things and *in my best baby speak* I fall down and go boom), but if that floor moved another minute or so, I might have needed a bag....

It wasn't too bad to be honest. I sat in the back of the theater the first time I saw it and I felt nothing but when I moved to the middle of the theater the second time, I felt it bounce. I never knew it did that. So your best bet would be to try for a back row.

theBIGyowski · Post by **theBIGyowski** » Apr Thu 22, 2010 4:08 pm

If they put any real "imagination" into it...they could transform the pavilion to be the place where Cornelius Robinson works on his inventions. The 3-D show could be showcase of some of his newest inventions and maybe have DOR-15 or something similar come in to try and sabotage everything. There's SO MUCH they could do with this gem of a movie that would give kids the right idea of imagination and how to "keep moving forward" no matter what.

Right now everything over there is cheesy and so watered down that it's not even really about imagination anymore.

Mousekedude · Post by **Mousekedude** » Apr Thu 22, 2010 4:15 pm

theBIGyowski wrote:If they put any real "imagination" into it...they could transform the pavilion to be the place where Cornelius Robinson works on his inventions. The 3-D show could be showcase of some of his newest inventions and maybe have DOR-15 or something similar come in to try and sabotage everything. There's SO MUCH they could do with this gem of a movie that would give kids the right idea of imagination and how to "keep moving forward" no matter what.

Right now everything over there is cheesy and so watered down that it's not even really about imagination anymore.

Well said! (sound of applause...).

I couldn't agree more!

Jacca5660 · Post by **Jacca5660** » Apr Thu 22, 2010 4:36 pm

Amy for you:

You are totally correct about Meet the Robinsons. Disney seems to just not get it anymore! They are always looking for a cheap way out!

MmeLeota · Post by **MmeLeota** » Apr Thu 22, 2010 4:50 pm

Meet the Robinsons would totally be the perfect fit for the Imagination Pavilion! A 3-D show, a ride, and perhaps make the old ImageWorks area either an interactive dining area or a place to "play" with some of Cornelius' inventions....

Now, how can we pitch this to the powers that be?