What would you change back?

inkydog · Post by **inkydog** » Jun Thu 07, 2007 9:15 am

Toad it is! However, I would also love to see the Skyway open again.

ldzny · Post by **ldzny** » Jun Thu 07, 2007 10:07 am

spaulo wrote:Kick Winnie the Pooh and cohorts out of DL's Country Bear Theater and bring back the Jamboree!

I agree, bring back the bears! (but put Pooh somewhere closer to the kiddie rides in fantasy land)

Croaker · Post by **Croaker** » Jun Thu 07, 2007 11:41 am

speaking of the mange...er jamboree bears...how about we update their costumes. i feel like i'm at the pound or the state fair petting zoo whenever i see them out roaming.

AJBARTH · Post by **AJBARTH** » Jun Fri 08, 2007 12:58 am

With out a doubt, Figment. My wife almost cried when we found out about the change and then rode the ride. What a shame, you don't have to be a child to have enjoy such pleasures in life.

SimonTemplar · Post by **SimonTemplar** » Jul Tue 03, 2007 11:02 pm

Cheshire Cat wrote:Definitley Journey Into Imagination and Horizons, they were like the Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean of epcot. Plus that JII turntable was ahead of its time and defintiley has/still would have had a 'wow' effect for me, same with the 'choose your own tomorrow' ending from Horizons.

I'll second that !! Boy do I miss those rides.

PudgetteD · Post by **PudgetteD** » Jul Sat 07, 2007 12:19 pm

Mr Toad @ WDW

MansionButler · Post by **MansionButler** » Jul Mon 09, 2007 3:27 pm

So much. Not that Disney's in a terribly bad state, or I hate even one of the parks or anything, there's just so much I could change.

Given wide-sweeping powers, I'd change MGM to the way it was in the late 90s. I understand alot of that is out of Disney's control, but still. Back when Roger Rabbit roamed the land, theming was over the top, the enterence was beautiful, Great Movie Ride was well maintained and there was an actual freakin' studio there, it was so much better.

If it has to be a minute change, I'd have them keep 20,000 Leagues. Again, alot of the problems were out of their control. So if I'm going to be fair and pick on something within their control, FREAKIN' JOURNEY INTO FREAKIN' IMAGINATION!!!

Also Recieving Votes:
Magic Kingdom: Tiki Room, Mr. Toad (Winnie the Pooh is nice, I just wish they were both there), Pirates (alot of nice changes, Davey Jones is not one of them), Skyway, Alien Encounter, Time Keeper

Epcot: Horizons (or at least something better than M:S), The Living Seas, and I'd undo the Maelstrom and give them another chance to realize things the way they wanted them in the first place.

MGM: Just way too much. No hat, keep Roger Rabbit, Monster Sound Show, keep the studios, no hat, no. . . man, nevermind. Pretty much every change.

Animal Kingdom: Go back to square one and don't make Chester and Hester's Dino-Rama. That's really it.

Disneyland: Pirates, Swiss Family Treehouse, Astro Jets, Skyway, People Mover, Captain Hook's Boat

Cheshire Cat · Post by **Cheshire Cat** » Jul Mon 09, 2007 4:02 pm

I'd undo the Maelstrom and give them another chance to realize things the way they wanted them in the first place.

Undo Maelstrom? What?

DisBeamer · Post by **DisBeamer** » Jul Mon 09, 2007 9:03 pm

MansionButler wrote:MGM: Just way too much. No hat, keep Roger Rabbit, Monster Sound Show, keep the studios, no hat, no. . . man, nevermind. Pretty much every change.

Keep Roger Rabbit doing what? I only ever remember Roger Rabbit movie sounds and props out by the end of the backlot tour.

mommyfor2 · Post by **mommyfor2** » Jul Tue 10, 2007 10:28 am

Kick Winnie the Pooh and cohorts out of DL's Country Bear Theater and bring back the Jamboree!

I would also like to see the Peoplemover brought back. It was such a relaxing ride, a place to sit and rest your feet when they were tired.

Cheshire Cat · Post by **Cheshire Cat** » Jul Tue 10, 2007 11:02 am

Keep Roger Rabbit doing what?

Back in "old school" MGM, Roger Rabbit had a lot of cameos throughout the park, (especially the Acme Gag Factory). Now the only tributes that remain are a billboard and window in the ehco lake area.

He was the unofficial macott of the park...
When my dad had his birthday at the San Angel back in 1995, the birthday card they gave him showed the three park icons (Castle, SSE, Earful Tower) and had Mickey, Figment and Roger in front of each of them respectively.

DisBeamer · Post by **DisBeamer** » Jul Tue 10, 2007 11:30 am

Cheshire Cat wrote:Back in "old school" MGM, Roger Rabbit had a lot of cameos throughout the park, (especially the Acme Gag Factory). Now the only tributes that remain are a billboard and window in the ehco lake area.

He was the unofficial macott of the park...
When my dad had his birthday at the San Angel back in 1995, the birthday card they gave him showed the three park icons (Castle, SSE, Earful Tower) and had Mickey, Figment and Roger in front of each of them respectively.

Huh. We didn't go to MGM that much when it opened, but I was certainly there circa '95. I don't remember seeing him or references to him/that movie at all, apart from the sound effects stuff at Acme. Poor Roger. I knew his ride there got canceled but I didn't know he got demoted from mascot (though it doesn't surprise me that much).

MansionButler · Post by **MansionButler** » Jul Tue 10, 2007 11:59 am

DisBeamer wrote:
MansionButler wrote:MGM: Just way too much. No hat, keep Roger Rabbit, Monster Sound Show, keep the studios, no hat, no. . . man, nevermind. Pretty much every change.
Keep Roger Rabbit doing what? I only ever remember Roger Rabbit movie sounds and props out by the end of the backlot tour.

He and Jessica were an omnipresent set of mascots for the parks before they sold the rights to him.

My favorite shop on property was the one that was almost perfectly themed off of the Acme warehouse. The shop is still there, but it doesn't sell anything interesting anymore, and most of the stuff from the movie is gone.

Cheshire Cat wrote:
I'd undo the Maelstrom and give them another chance to realize things the way they wanted them in the first place.
Undo Maelstrom? What?

Maelstrom was originally supposed to be a longer, more thrilling, MUCH more cohesive ride about vikings and trolls. Instead, it's now a travelogue for Norway that ends suddenly and lamely. It's cool for a point and then you're left going. . . what the heck?

MansionButler · Post by **MansionButler** » Jul Tue 10, 2007 12:04 pm

DisBeamer wrote:
Cheshire Cat wrote:Back in "old school" MGM, Roger Rabbit had a lot of cameos throughout the park, (especially the Acme Gag Factory). Now the only tributes that remain are a billboard and window in the ehco lake area.

He was the unofficial macott of the park...
When my dad had his birthday at the San Angel back in 1995, the birthday card they gave him showed the three park icons (Castle, SSE, Earful Tower) and had Mickey, Figment and Roger in front of each of them respectively.
Huh. We didn't go to MGM that much when it opened, but I was certainly there circa '95. I don't remember seeing him or references to him/that movie at all, apart from the sound effects stuff at Acme. Poor Roger. I knew his ride there got canceled but I didn't know he got demoted from mascot (though it doesn't surprise me that much).

He didn't get demoted. He was phased out some, but the reason he's not around anymore is because Disney sold him. I THINK to Universal for another cartoon character (Oswald? Rabbit for a rabbit?). I cant' remember the specifics, but Disney no longer owns the rights to Roger Rabbit.

Which p*** me off to know end, but oh well. He also used to be in Spectro. He was replaced by Genie when it was brought back from its last hiatus. Trust me, he was much better than Genie.

Wikipedia (yes. . . Wikipedia) says nothing about a sale, but it does say this: "Luckily for Roger fans, Disney CEO Robert Iger is talking with Amblin Entertainment to do more with the character. This may lead to new appearances at the parks and more." I really feel like trusting what I was told in training more than what I was told by a Wikipedia trivia section, but I'm curious now. Getting sold off would certainly explain the sudden absence from so many places better.

DisBeamer · Post by **DisBeamer** » Jul Tue 10, 2007 12:09 pm

MansionButler wrote:He didn't get demoted. He was phased out some, but the reason he's not around anymore is because Disney sold him. I THINK to Universal for another cartoon character (Oswald? Rabbit for a rabbit?). I cant' remember the specifics, but Disney no longer owns the rights to Roger Rabbit.

Which p*** me off to know end, but oh well. He also used to be in Spectro. He was replaced by Genie when it was brought back from its last hiatus. Trust me, he was much better than Genie.

Well that I remembered (hearing that he'd been sold). By 'demoted', I meant went from being a (pseudo)mascot to not being around at all. That's a demotion in my mind. Come to think of it I do remember him in spectro too - glowing Roger Rabbit rings a bell. And from one of the (very old now, I guess) planning videos. I guess he never stood out that much to me, though as I said, I didn't spend a lot of time at MGM back in the day.